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You (and Greg on this point) are absolutely right (not that you need me to tell you). Thanks for explaining in a way I was able to understand 'zac... I love being wrong!

It puzzles me when you say things like this. I am chilled, dude. When I write to you I don't feel angry or resentful, I am simply trying to communicate my own thoughts as best I can. I am a very straightforward person by nature, but it seems no matter what approach I take you pick out something to get upset about. I must admit I get a little bemused when I read some of your reactions, but that is the limit of how much emotion I have invested in any interaction with you. It's fine if you disagree or don't like my input, but please stop taking it so personally, it is not meant that way at all. A lot of heated language and accusations there Greg. Your own website which you linked us to lists LSD as one of the so-called Transcendent Compounds. So is it, or isn't it? Don't accuse me of failing to understand grammar instead of addressing this inconsistency, it is silly and self-defeating. If you think this is arguing over stupid little details, I fail to see how you are going to have any success convincing the unsympathetic of your views, because it is these kind of inconsistencies they are going to bring to light. I don't see what is so funny. Physical harm because you are doing a hunger strike. Psychological harm because you are claiming substances like LSD and mushrooms have been conclusively shown to be psychologically safe, and there are people who might believe you and end up doing themselves serious psychological harm. Legal harm because of the potential for half-cocked campaigns like this to bring even more negative attention to these compounds. I am only suggesting that you are a little more cautious with how you phrase things. For example, whether LSD is a Transcendent Compound or not—all you would have to do to make your argument stronger is make your claim weaker, so that you say 'most Transcendent Compounds have a history of ancient use' Either that, of remove LSD from the list of Transcendent Compounds. Similarly, you could qualify your claim to say 'relatively safe' which would be more accurate and would help your opponents to take your argument more seriously. As it is I think these inconsistencies greatly weaken your case and make it seem like your enthusiasm is clouding your judgment. Fine, I am happy not to waste any more time on this as you seem incapable of accepting constructive criticism or listening to anyone who disagrees with you, and seem to prefer taking offence and resorting to insults and posing as a martyr instead of allowing your fixed ideas to be seriously scrutinized... wait a minute! You really are religious, aren't you? I'll leave you to it then, like I said good luck with your hunger strike and take care. I will add it seems strange to me that you evince such a patroinizing attitude towards these forums and only seem to use them to rally support for your cause, I think that is quite rude.

The only advice I can offer is: when inserting anything big, make sure to use a lot of lube.

Gem, I am sorry you have had such a bad experience with doctors and your medication. For what it's worth, I strongly oppose the advice of those suggesting you suddenly stop such a high dose of benzos, this is not a good idea and can be very dangerous. *Please do not go 'cold turkey' from such a high dose of Xanax, it could be life threatening!* I am disappointed and surprised you were given this advice and would have thought some of those suggesting it would know better. The best approach is to taper your dose very gradually, which I know is what you want to do. You can use other things to smooth the process if you feel you need to, but if you make the reduction gradual enough you shouldn't have many side effects, although the symptoms you were using the Xanax to treat may begin to reappear when you get to a low enough dose. Good luck, I hope you are able to find a compassionate and wise doctor and support to help you through this. Please do keep us informed of your progress, and feel free to get on here to debrief whenever you need to. Although there is some bad advice on this thread, I know everyone means well and wants to do their best to support you. *edit* If you haven't already, get in touch with your local community mental health team: Gold Coast Mental Health & ATODS www.health.qld.gov.au/goldcoasthealth/html/services/mhealth.asp (07) 5519 7871 They should be able to help! Good luck, let us know how you go.

I never thought I'd be on a boat.

LSD has no ancient history of such use. As for 'psychologically safe' if many sensible people here who are pro-psychedelics would eschew such a strong claim, how do you expect to be taken seriously by the government? They only need to check wikipedia to find: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsd I think you are extremely arrogant and foolhardy, but sometimes that is exactly what certain situations require. So I wish you good luck, but I do wish you would be a little more careful and responsible with the way you present your claims, and hope no one comes to any physical, psychological or legal harm as a result of your actions.

Sounds like you raped those patches good.

Fuck. I wandered around for a bit, got there around 3.. didn't help I realized I had no ones numbers who was going oh well, chilled out with the dog and my partner under a tree for a bit anyway. nice day for it I like Therefore's suggestions!

cunts

Is anyone else here?

Park in this carpark and wander around the spot marked with B, look for a big green alien frog on a flag (if FC is there) if not just look for a bunch of weirdos.

Wow, the Miarrabooka one is still going? I remember it from my Balga days. The meet is really at the usual place isn't it?

I love you TL

Sorry, but LOL.

Any dates being thrown around for the next meet? I'm keen for any Sunday arvo.

Just so you know Breadfilter and anyone else, when you delete something here it is still on Google's cache, where I just read the original post. Something to think about before posting stuff you might regret later. Oh, and for my contribution to this thread:

I've had similar symptoms since my late teens/early twenties. I know what it is like to feel immobilized by nausea every day for weeks or even months. For me, it seems to be anxiety-related, although I believe there is a physical predisposition (and anyway, anxiety is as much physical as mental). One of my biggest triggers is life stresses and rapidly cutting down Cannabis use. One feeds into the other, and can become a waking nightmare. If I am really stressed, the nausea can last all day, mild stress it will just be a few hours. Ginger tablets worked ok for a bit, but seemed to create a lot of bloating which eventually made things worse.. give it a shot though, it is an anti-emetic. Peppermint oil was not quite as good as the ginger, but it took the edge off but created horrible peppermint burps (sounds nice but it's not) For me, all I have tried that works reliably chemically to stop the nausea is Cannabis, lorazepam, olanzapine and doxylamine, but none are really good long term solutions. Lately, I have come off olanzapine and the nausea came back. I experiemnetd with low dose (5-10mg) of promethazine, which worked very well. I took 5-10mg 2-3 time a day at first, but lately I have been taking it prn, and I have only needed about 10mg every 2-3 days on average. I know others have used metoclopramide and ondansetron to good effect during pregnancy. Here's a handy list of antiemetics: http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Antiemetic Good luck man, let us know how you go with it and if you ever want to chat, you know where I am. *edit I am only suggesting antiemetics for after you have ruled out possible non-anxiety related causes with your doctor!

What are you a fucking evangelical Christian now?

Heaps of those links have got the compressed header (http://www.shaman-au...showtopic=29994) as the actual link... with the ellipsis included, so they don't go anywhere. Damn all the corroboree links on that S. splendens page are 404s I was enjoying the nostalgia.

You are against bullying, and yet you blame the victim. Can you really not see how a stream of hateful verbal abuse from strangers could be harmful to one's psychological well-being? They are only relevant after abuse has started, and are no obstacle to a coordinated hate campaign by a bunch of trolls. What's she going to do, premptively block everyone on the internet in case they send her abusive messages? Opinions are quite separate from vicious verbal abuse and wishing death on someone. Maybe she was already on the edge, and this just pushed her over. Besides, I don't see a connection between not caring what other people say about you and being on TV? Lots of famous people are troubled by people's opinions of them, it's natural human behavior. More victim blaming. Words can trigger things in people. Maybe she was doing fine and then the dam broke. I'm not sure who I find more worrying: the small, grubby segment of humanity who do stuff like that, or the wide swathes who enable them by blitheley perpetuating such twisted memes. Imagine someone being open about their sexuality on TV and then getting abused as a result and becoming sucidal. Should they have just stayed quiet seeing as they are so pathetic that they feel affected by something like that?

I love them sooo much. I'm leaving Australia to be with them.

'the the only truth is that there can never be certainty' are you certain this is true? *edit Does anyone else think the symbol of Greg's religion looks like a symbol for a grumpy face?

I'm not sure why you are so offended, but it's sad you choose to resort to insults instead of interacting with ideas. Look at my second response to you in this thread.. see how I conceded your point and admitted to my ignorance? I was wrong, and I learned something. That is the healthy response when something you said is shown to be wrong, not a torrent of fallacies and childish retorts. To quote Jesus, I think it would be casting my pearls before swine to attempt tp carry this disucssion any further. Still, I am soooo curious why you think I need a dictionary! What words do you think I don't understand the meaning of?

NO! RELIGION IS INFALLIBLE! HEATHEN!

It wasn't an assumption, it was an inference based on what you have said so far. I also don't assume you use the word faith in a religious sense. You said people have blind faith in science and compared my explanation of the scientific method to zealotry and blind religious ignoranc, so it seems like this was precisely the sense in which you were using it. Now you seem to be equating faith with truth? This seems like an exercise in bizarre equivocation. I'm fairly certain I understood your points adequately, it is just that it is not a very good argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I think it's silly when people try to dictate what a discussion is 'meant' to be about... you are the one who first mentioned science and compared it to religion! Anyway, Aren't science and religion exactly the kind of topics one would expect in a discussion about truth and belief systems?