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i culled my ph as it was growing to big, and didn't want the hassle anymore.
there are some people on this forum trading the ph once in a while.
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hi, lou!
the cathas in the pic, are what we call the red strain.
i named the vienna white, the planthelper, and started calling some x pollinated strains pinks.
the red strain originated from wa, and the property owner of one of those trees in wa, became even a member here for a while. he found sab, because he investigated why some people, tresspassed his garden and kept pruning his red catha.
the vienna white, comes from the university botanical gardens in vienna, it was sourced originally, from yemen.
the narrow leaved, comes from trees in the royal botanical gardens sydney, and a tree in tarango zoo.
rumours say it was confiscated by the border patrol.
the plant helper is a x cross between a narrow leaved and a vienna white, it displays good hybreed vigor.
once all those plants got established, many cross polinated seeds got produced and traded.
the pinks are one of those open pollinated breeds. there are as well, narrow leaved semi reds, and planthelper pinks and many intermidiates.
yemen bosts, to have hundreds of different strains. we got as well at some stage seeds from south africa, but some description of his seeds were incorrect....
hope that helps.
broad leaved qat makes an easy cutting, narrow leaved qat, does not strike well from cuttings, but produces suckers. those suckers can be used, to produce easy cuttings as well.
but once the narrow leaved plant stops producing leaves in a spiral fashion, the abilety to take cuttings from those plants diminishes.
if you start of with a nl sucker, and often take cuttigs from it, this action will slow down the aging process to some degree.
madragora took cuttings of mature narroleaved plants, where a young side shoot is formed, and had good success, but she was an above average probagator.
if you want manny nl's you might just propagate from seed. if there are many other cathas around, than some to all seedlings could be cross pollinated.
so choose narrow leaved seeds from an isolated tree.
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it's a very virgorous plant, you could haverest it after 3 years.
there is a saying, in thailand, if your boyfriend smokes weed, don't marry him, if he chews kratom, marry him, he will work!
and don't worry there are a few trees growing, in oz.
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On 19/03/2022 at 1:42 AM, sagiXsagi said:
It would be extra cool for me if you showed detailed pictures, especially since your plants seem to be major and fragilis , so a real side by side comparison would be awesome... 5 pics per plant would be cool! things we are searching is:
1) woody trunk , how many main trunks, are the branches the same width?
2) does one do suckers near the base while the other branches from the woody base ??
1, many and some suckers emerged just 30 cm away from the original plant, this plant i think is fragilis and it has a bluish color.
2, both plants sucker away from the original seedling, but the major does sucker even meters away from the main plant. it's more greenish in color.
i have removed many suckers, i hope to upload a pic in given time.
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sagi, i will have a look, but pics are difficult for me, and last time years ago, i got an upload error.
but i will try.
one thing i know without inspecting the plants, is they have a different colour and different habit of young growth, major has straight leaves (are the called leaves?) and the suspected fragilis slighly bend (sicle shaped).
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i got 3 plants, one is tall and is certainly an e. major.
the other one is very tall as well, and the seed came from spain, maybe a fragilis the facilitator said, but could be distachia, he said.
if size rules out this beeing, a distachya, than that helps me with a correct id attempt.
does fragilis grow tall?
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there are 4 palms of this kind, in my botanical garden, and only one has ripe seeds on it, i have to get lucky to pick up some fallen ones.
other people pick them up to, and at times, the whole bunch dissapeared from one day to the other.
i don't remeber what i did in the past when i germinated them (they died after a mild frost allthough shelterd on the balcony)
but i would take the husk off and scarifie the seed coat.
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can't help with a pic, as it's very labor intensive for me to upload pics, and i got last time, i tried a massive upload error. so i stopped posting pics (i got no mobile).
i think to remember that, you asked me once for seeds, i managed to sprout one seed, and can send you many cutting of this plant.
it's of the strain that, is lees likely to form seed, i call it the ed strain, it's been around for a long time.
the other strain i call darcy strain, as he indroduced this strain, it forms seeds easely, you maybe could source this plant from herbalistics, in case the still are trading.
drop me a pm and i send you cuttings.
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what a beautifull area, with flowers and cypress pines...
all the ephedras on your pics are very small, obviously regrowth after a fire (or fires).
i would look now for, plants which did not had to endure fires, an ephedra of your kind grows up to 2m tall after 15 years.
btw, i am seeking e. sinica seeds, i grew once a plant and it flourished but got killed, by an overly zelous lawmover operator (me).
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maybe i can help you.
it needs frost free climat, to grow.
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congratulations to this exciting find!
i hope in good time you can upload a couple of pics, so we can get more of an idea, of how it grows.
i wonder if the rocks, provide good drainage to this plant, and if they even provide some form of protection from fires.
as you say, it loves to sucker, and i agree that this habit, would also make it to be able to re generate, after fires.
ephedras are one of my favorite plants, and i admire that those living fossils, managed to cultivate sea shores, deserts and alpine ground.
i could easely see, that ephedras were as well distributed by humans, for a very long time, as it's a very usefull medicinal plant.
i once posted here about the ephedras at kew royal botanical gardens, and the posibilety, to test chew a variety of species there.
some people believe, john smith the founder of the mormons, dosed up too high on ephedra, and as such got his messages from the angel.
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i grew courtii, from free seed, and it did do well even at my super hot location.
one day, many moons ago, i woke up and said, "i clean my yard", and i chucked courtii, but she smelled super nice...
i tell you a secret, acacia bakerii!
it's one of my own discoveries,Acacia bakeri - Wikipedia
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i have sent an e mail regarding this, and started a thread.
i will look for it and post a link, it at least gives you a time frame of when it happend...
so a few years ago i uploaded a pic, and the forum software must have thought it was a video.
i clicked stop, because the uploading took, far longer than usally.
my post count shot up by a 1000 or more, because every dark image, appearing at the top of the page, was counted like i posted a gallery pic.
so those black pics, i can't find because, pressing just the left symbol at the gallery pics doesn't get you back all the way to what was uploaded in june 2020.
but they are still there because my post count is still to high.
another thing is, that if one clicks gallery, it always features the pics of bullit, and this page used to change randomly, and give other members a chance to have ther pics promoted.
tort, here it is. took me a while to find...
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On 14/02/2022 at 9:35 AM, mr b.caapi said:
And did it fix your cough ?
that, i don't remember.
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a long time ago, a farmer, heard my morning cough, and prepared me a salvia officinalis tea.
she used a lot of herb, and it produced some strange sensations. if i remember correctly, a feeling of being removed from, reality, bright dot's of light, and seeing the world more in sepia only.
it lasted for a few hours, and i would not repeat, this experience...
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looks like 3 different things to me.
the one with the title, melting in the shade, reminds me of how it looks, when the pedro changes from 5 ribs to six, or so. but than it seems decided not to vary the number of ribs.
the roseii melt, looks what i get at times from, placing a cutting in a shadier position.
good onya, for spelling roseii correctly, most people even professionals and the gardening shows always spell it wrong, in latin it's always double ii, not single...
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over the years, reading here, i can say that rue, is the most complained about plant.
for most people it does not germinate, and if it does it struggles and dies prematurly.
i remeber one person, finding out that it has an unusual ph requirement, i'm slightly dyslexic, so polar things are hard for me, but i guess very alkaline enviroment.
for the flowering, i can't say for certain, but flowering has often to do with two things, photoperiode and dry spells followed by rain.
in melbourne, you get quite varying daylight ours, so i don't think it's that. but you probably get too much rain, and no dryspells at the right time of the year.
maybe it needs a cold spell.
it seems do like desolate places where nothing else grows...
keep up the good work!
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most people struggled, keeping those plants alive.
i was told, people farm it, in qld at a place called mudfarm, at least they sell the oz grown herb.
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i am looking for salvia apiana seed's and or rooted cuttings.
please pm me if you can help.
i once grew a huge plant, which produced hundreds of seeds, but the seeds got lost....
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there are two different strains around, and the difference is how easy they produce seeds.
one produces seeds to a very high degree, the other one hardly.
i currently don't have the well seeding one, so if you have seeds please pm me.
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On 18/12/2021 at 8:48 PM, sagiXsagi said:
I only managed once to get a seedling to maturehood, its flowering now and its a narrow leaf one. I also have a wide leaf var , also flowering.. Honestly its so easy to propagate through suckers, that I havent bothered again with seeds.
Question: both my narrow leaf and broad leaf vars seem to be self-fertile, and the little seed they do is usually lost with the air lol.
How are hybrids done if they are self- fertile?? or could I be wrong and only the narrow leaf one is self-fertile?
so, we have posted a lot about this years ago, and i might add to hd,s reply.
1, at my location good flowers and seeds are produced only after heavy rain.
2, for hand pollination, and this is how ph was created, i put a plastic bag around the unopend flower.
than when it opend, removed the pollen stalks, by cutting them off with scissors. note this was done with premature pollen stalks.
than apply pollen from your cross breed to the stigma, note the stigma is mature if it "looks" wet.
than quicly put the plastic bag over the flower to avoid other pollen from fertilizing.
3, but my newer methode, is much easier and requires, no steady hands anymore.
let the flowers x pollinating by chance (or even help by hand pollinating) and than just grow all the seedlings and pick them by trait.
4, often this plant produces in fertile seeds, which look flat or not filled out, only try to germinate "fat" seeds. note in fertile seeds are produced by lack of moisture.
plants need to be planted in the ground to produce a good set of seeds...
5, to collect the seeds, you take the whole branch off, just when the seed capsuls are starting to split open.
than you put the branch in a cardboard box. maybe the long cut branch will still provide enough nutrients to the seeds over the next few days...
than you whip the branch against the card board, to get the subborn seeds out.
6, than like panning for gold you shake the box, this will make the seeds collect at the bottom and corner (keep box tilted).
than remove all the debris which collects at the top, and the seeds will be collected right at the bottom.
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yes, but i take coversyl for that.
i was prescribed prazosin, to relax my bladder, as i have to pee 4 times a night, it's a benign, prostrate thing.
i researched prazosin more, and it was hailed as a miracle drug for ptsd, but now has been found useless as such.
the poor veterans get treated like guinea pigs, pumped full of drugs that don't help, but have negative side effects...
i think, i understand now, why i hated this drug so much, it's an alpha inhibitor, it removed all zest and energy from my body.
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i have been prescribed prazosin an alpha blocker, and have used it only once and just halve a minipress.
i checked it's half life, and it should not effect me, more than 36 h later.
all though some papers state, that it's effects can last for a few day's.
now have used metropolol (a beta blocker) years ago, and when i stopped using it, i felt an uneasy heartbeat for 6 months, and this only from one tablet.
i have to add i haven't used prazosin and metropolol at the same time, and i know they are contra indicated.
taking one metropolol, in the morning, gave me an uneasy heart beat allready in the afternoon. what i mean is some doc's prescribe one in the morning and halve in the afternoon.
i did not take metropolol, to help unregular heart beat, but for ptsd and anxiety. but it "gave me" unregular heart beat.
i still take metropolol at times, to overcome stage fright, but this only once a week maximum. i know of stage performers which had to perform every day, and as such had to increase there beta blocker intake, and they must have gone thru hell waining themselves of it.
alcohol is a much saver anxyolitic, and is the best drug to overcome stage fright.
now i have taken at times only a single dose of mitrazapine, and some ssri's, and i had the feeling that they still had an effect on my receptors for days later.
as well at times, i claim, a single dose of an anti depressant would, stop my long lasting depressive state, from one day to the other, and i felt no need to take another dose.
all of the said above, make me believe that, receptors might work, compared to what a gate does, open or close to an influx.
but it's for me not as the pharma people describe, once you stop taking the inhibitor or antagonist, the gate shuts again.
i see it as, the gate can "be rusty and not open easely" and as well the "gate can be, swung open and to get stuck for a while in the opend stage".
i'm a person who can feel galangel kefir, and other herbs, passing my, blood brain barrier, maybe thats an indicator, why i seem to be very sensitive to, drugs which alter my receptors.
taking a single halve dose of prazosin, more than 40h ago still give me the sensation of, i want my body back.
i had a night mare with lots of blood pressure medications, in the same way, they turned me into a geriatic person from one moment to the other,
i could not drive, do my chores,and it seemed even my cognitive functions were negativly impacted.
just keep taking them the doctors said, it will get better. thank god i did not heed there bad advice, but stopped and tried another blood preassure medicin.
it took a long time to find a drug for me with minimum side effects...
i'm lucky i currently have a doctor who doesn't take it personaly, if i'm not happy with the drugs we try.
many doctors are so incompetant, they belive only street drugs can be dangerous drugs, only street drugs make addicted!
they believe antidepressants are non addictive, and tolerance is not an issue.
if you experience a rare side effect of a drug, they never believe you.
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after delta we now got the omikron varient
,once we used up the greek alphabet, whats next?
very normal for viruses to evolve in many varients.
maybe the way to classify is by saying omikron 21.
does any body knows the rules for this? like cyclon names don't get re used if it was a big one....
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Ephedra sp. cultivation notes and discussion
in Ethnobotany
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i think, one can't give advice to ephedras in general, as they come from very different latitudes and climatic zones because of elevation.
some grow in the desert, like nevandesis.
some high up in the alps like helvetia.
some grow close to the seashores.
asking, 'might a saucer help', could be answered with yes, for some plants, under some circumstances and no for others.
many ephedras i did grow at my location died, either because, they did not like the extreem heat, or it was not cold enough for them.
sagi's location allows many ephedras to flourish, whilst mine favors only a few.
one thing is for sure, they all like good drainage, and can die after heavy rain causes water to remain in a spot.
those ephedras grew the fastes in my garden, but monsoonal rains killed them after 5 years.
btw, the university botanical garden in vienna has some minimas which set seed regularly, they got as well a helvetia (sorry to use this term) but i never seen fruit on it.
ephedras are living fossils, and even more special than ginko biloba, we can learn a lot about evolution when studying ephedras.
WE NEED TO PROTECT THOSE EPHEDRAS, EVEN IF THE LAWS SAY WE HAVE TO DESTROY THEM. FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL HAIL OUR FORSIGHT!!!
i don't think fragilis and major are the same.
my 2m tall big plants are maybe 16-17 years old and at least one of them came from some seeds torsten did sell via his shop.
a very good methode to get an idea about ephedras is to taste them.
i once did this at kew gardens, which do have a very big ephedra collection, you can test, one ephedra sample every 15 min or so.
take a few stalks and chew them thorougly, watch out for taste sensation and effects.
i believe that ephedra alkaloids have never been investigated in detail, and many surprises and discoveries will be made by future genarations.
i suffer from hayfever and globus sensation, ephedrin is only one of very few substances that can help me.
unfortunately the tga and lawmakers, don't care if ther restrictions of ephedrin, causes me suffering. they believe the alternatives are even better, but they ar useless for me.
if you suffer from a condition where ephedrin is the best, than good luck of recieving help. all doctors get brain washed by the pharmas, and are delusional when it comes to many drugs.
they think, IF IT CAN BE A DRUG THAT CAN GET ABUSED, IT HAS TO BE A BAD DRUG!! THOSE IDIOTS. EDUCATE, DON'T MAKIE IT ILLEGAL!!
I DON'T USE EPHEDRIN OFTEN, DON'T EVEN LIKE IT, AS IT GIVES ME AT TIMES TRACHYCARDIA.
I AM LOOKING FOR EPHEDRA SINICA SEEDS, I HAD A GOOD SIZE PLANT, BUT RAN THE MOWER OVER IT, and it did not come back.