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  1. all you guys said it correct.

    it's self pollinating, can produce seeds after 4 years, and if planted out you get fantastic seed set, only after a perfect season...

    in pot's you get seeds almost every year.

    they like water over winter, but in pot's not too much.


    the most incredible thing regarding catha, is that they can form underground shoots, to form a new plant, wher they think it's better for them.

    they are not roots, but very thin vegetative shoots, with long nodes and tiny pale leaves.

    i never found anyone mentioning this in the sience litarature.

    once this underground shoot likes the position it, forms roots, and upright grow.

    it's a form of suckering with a distance.

  2. i watched landline, and the person said, this kava was prepared with slippery hibiscus as an additative.


    this landline report focused on kava, made me wanna grow it again, but we would need to get the right property for it.

    is it legal to grow in oz?

    mabee some offshore islands would be suited.

    i would invest all my savings into a venture like this.


    3 or 4 investors, i will study locations.

    table land maybe not good enough, chrismas island, or some offshore qld islands.

    if you got info, post it here.

  3. in the uk, i grew them inside, behind the windows. those ones i grew from seed, and sold in europe.

    they were small, never did a bio essay.


    regarding potency, i read the red veined, is stronger than the rifat/four seasons.

    an established tree can survive mild frosts, and it helps if daytime temps are much higher.


    it's said the rifat is a self pollinator, and some rumor claims the offspring was red veined. i can't confirm this.

    we spoke a lot about the seeds of this plant here at sab, if you break open a sphere of this plant, the seeds are the smallest items you will see, shaped like an artist, might paint a rolling tear.

    only the spheres were some green tubes poke out have been pollinated...

    i bio essayed the rifat more than 25 years ago, it was potent.

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  4. 3 hours ago, Ishmael Fleishman said:

    Died in two weeks in Victoria - I would not bother trying again. It is just not humid enough and it gets to cold in Victoria,


    i suspect a mistake by caring for this plant, they grow well even if you have to keep them inside over winter.

    i grew them in the uk, with no difficulties.

    its as well not a sensitive plant as it might be suggested, in this thread. it's a tough as hemp, and everybody that can grow hemp should be able to grow kratom...


    they will survive a mild frost, and i am currently searching the forum, to find posts about growers in vic, before it became illegal.

     i think this topic is very good, and somebody should move it, to were no guests or google can spy on us.

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  5. 3 hours ago, Darklight said:



    Dunno if you've noticed, but it's not just your justice that's being sidelined. Going to a GP these days is a lottery, very few winners, lots of lazy diagnosis and being sent home and told you're imagining it. Or worse, drug seeking- even when you haven't asked for drugs. It'll get your appointment terminated straight up and go on your record for future appointments


    IMO it's a major contributor to Australia having a high rate of chronic illness. Nobody bothers to investigate until you're almost dead


    I do believe vax injury is a thing, but so is longCOV. There are no perfect answers yet. Hope your symptoms vanish fast and you can heal

    you rise some very valid points.

    so, if one of the docs that worked at the surgery before, wrote down, "muscle pain" than thats it, even if you say, "it has to do with food" or the scans said " your lower verts are vacummed.

    asking for painkillers, unless you had an operation is a red flag for them, and you will get stigmatised. i complained once to a male triage nurse, and he run a vendetta against me, and i did not get a proper treatment.

    i am prescribed 400mg ibubrofene and i use this as an anty inflamatory, so for periodes one or two a day for a week or so, when telling this do the doc which filled in, he refused to writte me another script, for ibuprofene!!


    most doctors and the media  are extreemly deluded, they think street drugs make addicted, and prescription drugs don't!!!

    if you say to them, i got hooked on the anti depressant, and have to increase dosage, they say it doesn't matter this drug is good for you.

    as a shaman i realised the ssri's are not good for me, and now the most modern research claims, ssri's don't fix depression and the benefits were overstated and the side effects ignored.

    i took once occasional a anti depressant/ anti psyhotic which name now escapes me, when i said to my doc, this makes me suicidal in a way i never experienced before, he said double your dose, what an idiot. i stopped taking it, and never had this feeling ever again.

    a friend of mine suicided whilst taken this pill....

    doc's prescribe those drugs even to alcoholics, all though it very bad to mix them.


    one time, my diverticulits pain was soo bad, i took 2 oxicontin which i had left after an operation, they only masked the pain, and helped not much...

    i am lucky i am a shaman, and i can treat my issues at times with herbs.

    the other thing is to accept things for how they are.

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  6. On 04/10/2021 at 2:40 PM, SayN said:

     but feel free complain to your government 



    if you experience, some unwanted side effects from the vac, you can't complain to anybody, or any institution.


    i tried to contact the tga, all you are allowed to talk to is a phamacist, who say's i'm, sorry for what happend to you.

    in the first test, nobody complained about tinitus, but now one if 5000 get's it.

    there is a web page for serious side effects, and a goverment pay out scheme, but for non life threatening side effects, you get no help, they just all ignore your pleas.


    the astra seneca vac, gave me tinitus, and i still have it to this day.

    when i had covid, the tinitus intensified, but now it's not very loud again.

    it's a very anoying condition, i feel i get no justice....

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  7. i worked a lot with sceletium, and darcy sold kanna powder to snort, for a while after, i introduced him to this.


    one has to always think of how you admister the substance, and how to prepare it.

    i am one of those people who doesn't like ssri's, however once i had a very euphoric eperience, after smoking close to pure kanna extract.


    it's undersupplied on the market so money can be made.

    the internet is full of stories, of people giving up zoloft for kanna....

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  8. ive seen it growing in a park in brighton uk.

    i think, to remeber it originates from close to the artic circle...


    very small fruits, and high chilling requirement.

    btw, i have grown many kiwi fruts from seed, even many yellow ones.

    that's cool because they are not yet traded in the nursery trade.

    bummer they die after a while at my place, because of too much heat.

  9. i might add what little i know....

    the kava plant we grew in oz, was a black awa from hawai, said to be the strongest kava strain arround.

    there are many posts about this plant and who got it legaly nthrue customs, here at sab.

    the person who introduced the black awa, is easy to find with a internet search, he is doing brugmansias now somewhere around cairns.

    try brugmansia australia.


    hey, kadakuda i struggle to germinate betel nut seeds, i think i need to scarifie them.

    can you help, with insights?

    sorry for the side track

  10. On 01/04/2023 at 8:53 PM, SayN said:


    The facts aren't the problem here so, with respect, you can't ignore the science or shouldn't shoot the messenger.  It is what it is.  The problem, if there is one, are the violent men.

    i respect your view, but strongly disagree.

    i think there are two problems, with darwins view, "survival of the fittest".

    1, i don't think that it is fact. even blind and injuried animals often survive. less aggressive males get a chance as well to pass on there genes, the observers just don't report this, as it doesn't go hand in hand with the mantra, "survival of the fittest".

    the most aggressive animal is as with humans mostly, not the smartest. being smart and kind and supportive, are as well in the animal kingdom, far more important traits than sure "strengh". 

    2, and yes, this view alone was an excuse by the 3 reich to kill inocent people. and it's not that one nation contains statisticly more aggressive people than an other.

    america under rosevelt, wanted to have the same laws as nazi germany, it's just they could not get the law changes done, as they were not totalitarian.

    the way how sbs and other media portrays the 3 reich, is wrong. they portray the nazi as a monster, and never mention, that the reason for this monsters action was eugenics.


    darwin was seen in his contampary time, the same as hippies were seen in the 60's, "a lazy no good person that only travels", but his cousin galton was praised, and he is the person that created the ideas that led to the holocaust. anyway darwin plecherised most of his ideas.

    sorry for my dyslexia...

  11. let's not forget, that this all started with plants, peas which gregor mendel a man of the cloth, cultivated in his church garden.


    now, the theory behind eugenics, did lead to a slippery slope, which the 3 reich promoted to extreem proportions.

    if people are kept in concentration camps and starved of food, and laboured to death, everybody becomes, a sub human, and as such, can be erraticated.


    i have bred plants, but i think this topic needs to be, revisited as it contains a lot of flawed thinking.

    i don't like david attenborough any more, as he always promoted darwin, and the view, the most aggressive male get's all the girls.

    i wonder how many violent man, get encouraged by this view!

    there is even a big problem with seeds that have been breed to perfection, they don't reproduce true to type.

    a fact which is a problem in developing nations, and gives all the power and financial gain to the seed companies and not the farmer.


    i know from the plants that "nurture" is a very big factor, as even hybreeds such a nexus, don't grow well unless fully nurtured.

    i would say that there is an argument, to say stabilised seeds are, superior because they adjust better to a varied enviroment.

  12. why don't you go to the web store of the person, who created this hybreed.

    it's called herbalistics, but be warned he, renames many plants, so to create new excitement, and so that the people who sourced those plants originaly, don't get any recognition.

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  13. a while ago, i replied to a beeziness thread, on the lines, " i don't like bees, they lead to the dying out of many native insects".


    the pollen and nectar in my garden is for native bees and insects, not for imported!

    how dare your bees steal my pollen, which is to save rare native insects.

    the byron bat council, followed this idea and mad european honey bees illegal. a good move, i think, but political suizide, as they had so many complaints, they had to abonde the law afte a short time.


    which tells you, what would be the "RIGHT THING TO DO" can't be achived, becuse of the ignorance and feable mindedness of the people.

    thats when a dictator ship would come handy, haha.


    dyslexia, sorry.



  14. the us and the holocaust, is a start into the right direction, however it is still very biased.


    most eugenics topics are cencored by the australian state, they don't want you do know the truth.

    same as footage of rosevelt, endorsing  hitlers eugenics.


    thats when the russian media, becomes the only source of footage and documents.

    if you think you are free to know, and do research regarding eugenics or the wars, in australia or say america, you are mistaken.

    they block this information, and as such are on the same level as china or north korea.


    people with a browser, which pretends to be at an other country, might be able to view some of those (youtube) clips.


    i guess, nobody could watch, the link i gave in my opening post......

    i managed to watch a lot of this "banned by the oz goverment stuff", but don't want anybody of the goverment to know, how one can still watch it.


  15. On 27/01/2023 at 7:53 PM, Cubism said:

    Just out of curiosity WC, are you talking about SBS in general, or the Viceland channel?



    It's amazing the amount of clickbait trash on SBS these days generally speaking. 




    sbs in general, and the change happend apruptly...

    years ago, sbs had the 7.30 time slot, reserved for good docus, but than it changed to:

    instead of high grade docus (docus with real footage of artefacts) - semi sientific docus, produced with a style like aim and shoot pc games (computer animated pyramids and so on)

    i dislike docus which show 70% of the time, the "presenter" 20% animation, and only 10% the buildings or artefacts.

    often , if the presenter visits the artefact, it's hardly shown in good focus, but the presenter fills most of the screen, talking for minutes, and than the artefact is only shown for seconds.


    sbs, promotes with this, hate against germans.

    they show movies about holocaust deniers, and the next film, is ABOUT THE TOWER OF LONDON, AND HENRY THE 8, and it portrays those in a very good light.

    the tower of london, was a concentration camp, many innocent people lost ther lives there.

    victoria was the biggest drug dealer in history, the chinese say'd we don't want your opium, it cause suffering and death, to our people, so the brits went to war with them, with superior weapons, so the could force opium onto them.

    but sbs glorifies those people who comited those mass murders.


    let's make a thought experiment, let's kill hitler, maybe somebody else would have followed the ideas of eugenics, even in another country?

    you would have to go back and kill galton and darwin, but maybe the vacum would have produced a worse case scenario.

    like killing sadam hussain and gadafi, and you get islamic state instead.


    even darwinism, is very problamatic how it's portrayed, i hate it when david attenborough say's, THE MOST AGGRESSIVE MALE, GETS ALL THE FEMALES.

    this statement, all most a line in every nature movie, is wrong and needs to be re addressed.

    i wonder, how much LESS VIOLENCE WOULD BE ON THE PLANET, if this statement would not be advertised so often.

    the most agressive wins, this sentence, is for me a leftover from the core of EUGENICS AND DARWINISM. 


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  16. i get pissed off by sbs, programing sometimes two shows a day, how the nazis were monsters.

    most docus regarding the 2 ww are not only biased (winner tells the history) but outright done by people who are in denial (JUST THE SAME AS HOLOCAUST DENIERS).


    the presenters hold no qualifications, and because of the topic of the subject, no body is likely to stand up and critizise them for making up stories.


    story1, the most popular untrue story. hitler did'nt shake jesse owens hand because he was black.

    truth is, hitler did only shake hands with athlets who won gold for the 3 reich.

    nazis were not racist like the american, they had many black people in the armies, and belived that the australien first nations people are the leader race of the black people.


    story2, america is portrayed as, having saved many jews, like einstein went to america. america closed it's border to jews and asians and slaws and sint, and and.


    story3, they killed and experimeted with humans, the nazi the moster, thats all the say, and it's true they were monsters, but those sbs docus, never tell you who educated them, to those crimes.

    if a person preaches a dogma, which suggests to harm people, those people are as well responsible for the harm that is the result of there teachings.

    the people who educated the nazi monsters, to kill the feable minded, and people who they thought were not racialy pure, are in fact brits and amarican.

    they are darwinians, and created the idee of EUGENICS. GALTON, darwins cousin, invented eugenics, and as such holds partly responsibilety for the holocaust and the killing of sinti, roma, wittness of jehova, homosexualls, epileptics, and many gene transmited disease. there is footage of roosevelt, saying he envies germanies laws.


    now, i am against eugenics, and i was allways against the nazis, but i hate it if, the history gets told wrongly.


    i will writte more about this, but have run out of time for now.


    america, has sterilzed black people with out ther knowledge, till quite recent.

    the methode was the same as done by the nazies, produce some paper work and sterilize....

    rape victims, were processed by saying they were promiscuos and feable minded and for the good of the country, need to made sure to not have offspring




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  17. not falling asleep after stopping cannabis, is well known, i can take months for your body to re adjust, maybe it will continue to be an issue for life.

    nice article, learned!


    most gp think, if you stop a drug, the complications they caused will go away right away, but that is not so, at least not for me.

    i can't even tell my doc how delusioned he is, as he would get offended.

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