Just gonna go out on a whim and post here. Sorry if it's in the wrong section. It does mainly come down to self sufficiency though.
Prepare for a while lot of rambling. If you want to skip it just read the stuff after the dotted lines.
So... my gf and I are both 19. We've been together for a few years now and have grown to be inseparable and together we've become quite lost in this world. Wanting to free ourselves from this society and our parents to pursue our passions, we've encountered nothing but roadblocks.
We have the means and needs to go on to study at university and/or work decent jobs but found that we both do not fit in the traditional educational system and both don't find satisfaction in pursuing money. We have saved some money together working in the past after completing our studies but we've found it hard to go on working doing unfulfilling empty things for cash. We're not lazy people, we're both actually very enthusiastic and keen learners but we've found that most jobs we can't stick to because they just don't really engage us personally. We do recognize that money is a necessary evil but have found it really hard to make enough money to save to buy land even if we worked the jobs available to us in this age bracket.
We've made efforts to start a couple online businesses together and although reasonably successful. We expect them to only just sustain us financially when it comes to living needs. Definitely can't make enough to save for land, well we can but it'll take a decade minimum if were very lucky?
We just want to be self sufficient, live, love and so far our most important goal is "Find the others." as Timothy Leary said, but we have failed to find any like minded individuals in Sydney where we are located. As a result we haven't really built any strong friendships as individuals, we feel like nobody truly understands how we feel and what we want. The girlfriend and I have realized that social isolation can affect the both of us pretty damn badly even as a healthy loving couple whom spends most of their time together happily and whom interacts with friends and family on a daily basis. It's just a lack of people that we truly connect with.
All our friends and family seem so absorbed in their own little reality tunnels, working at their careers or doing whatever they can to manage their self esteem or whatever addiction they have or absorbed in some sort of reality tv show or silly celebrity drama or whatever other distraction that me and my gf can't seem to care about. We both also have Chinese fathers who are very traditional and only care about work work work, money money money, status status status and it absolutely drives us nuts. They have no concern for the creative mind or human evolution and love, their drive for money and status has turned us in the complete opposite direction. They only want their kids to make money and look good so they can brag about it and look good themselves. It just feels so against the soul.. you know? I don't even know if there is such thing as the soul, but living for money and status just doesn't feel right to us. It doesn't make us happy, there's just this great feeling of emptiness when we think of such things. I know a lot of the people on this forum probably feel the same.
Our interests are plants & animals & all of nature in general, medicinal and sacred plants, healthy eating and natural remedies, bushwalking, adventure, arts, DIY kind of stuff, self sufficiency, permaculture, foraging, psychedelics, love, freedom, true communication and connection with others. We love to have fun and share our love, we like to get people out of their shells of their normal routines and habits to dance and sing and open up and connect but I must say it is hard to find others willing to do so in our immediate surroundings. Another dream of ours is to start a little garden of eden of sacred and medicinal plants alongside our food farm, but find it hard to do so without our own land. We have a little cactus collection and a good collection of seeds but we're hesitant to expand and germinate them as much as we want to because we're still living with the parents and we know how they'll feel about such ventures. Plus I don't want to go through the trouble of taking everything with me after I've planted them or built up a good collection.
So I'm posting here hoping to find some advice for us. Right now we just want to be free and meet like-minded individuals. We've worked out to be independent from our parents which means self sufficiency ofc. But for that we require land and for land we need money and for money we need to work work work and that honestly just depresses us.
So freedom = self sufficiency = land = money...
We've only got around $10k AUD altogether and land prices are only going up. I've heard a quarter acre is apparently the absolute minimum for self sufficiency and even that can cost 80-90k minimum located out in the middle of no where in a little town with nothing but a pub. Not to mention dealing with all the real estate, land and council approval stuff like zoning and building entitlements and costs of needing driveways built for certain properties etc etc.
Another option was to buy into a MO but even they cost 90k minimum for a share.
We both honestly know it is unrealistic to expect to own our own land anytime soon, especially at our age as no normal person our age even owns their own place and are probably still and will be living at home for a couple years to come. Still, our urge to be free and independent persists.
We've considered buying a van and just living real cheap in that. Mount a solar panel on the top for electrics and spend whatever money we have on fuel, food and whatever other essentials (mechanical maintenance, internet bills etc) Of course we wouldn't be able to do the permaculture stuff but we'll be more free, which is certainly something we crave at the moment.
The idea at the moment is to just head up north to Northern NSW region (Think Nimbin and Byron Bay) to just chill and hopefully meet people, as we've been up there two times in the past year and have found that we fit in up there the most. We're kind of hoping we can find someone that will allow us to live on their land in a tent or something for cheap. Doing the trip on the cheap too of course, either living in a car on the way up or stealth camping while riding postie bikes up as we both have our motorcycle licenses lol. Or even catching a ride up. We are kind of itching for an adventure at the moment but fear that it won't be worth it overall as it's quite an investment in itself and we've been saving for land lately. Definitely going to be a significant hit to the funds.
But yeah, we're willing to give up luxuries and live on the cheap. Even if it means pooping in a hole and having to wipe with leaves. Self sufficiency and finding the others is the dream at the moment.
Any advice or alternatives would be appreciated. Maybe we're just dreaming too big at too young of an age? Just looking for frank advice as were completely lost for direction anyhow.
Edited by Nibbana, 03 October 2015 - 04:59 AM.