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[mutant]

he doesn't have a hope in hell of actually doing the job wellhe doesn't have a hope in hell of actually doing the job well

 

this is bollocks that a father cannot be a pretty good father, at least compared to a 'mediocre' mother.

 

Astrology (for those who can accept a part of it) underlines this by bringing forth female/mother/motherhood qualities in men and male/father/fatherhood qualitites in females.

 

So a male with bold Cancer birth chart is gonna be pretty good at being a father, while a woman with a bold Capricorn birth chart is gonna have lots of father qualities, and she's gonna be probably less warm and sensitive as a mother than say, a range of other signs.

 

Regarding the objectivity of astrology, Darklight, I cannot accept lessons of objectivity from someone who is of the mentality :

"why can't we just live together"

"why are there inequalities"

 

and the like.

 

Besides, you should have confronted astrology in the appropriate thread, but I remember you believe in the stars, so the smartass comment about the monolithic objectivity of mine got smashed on the monolith.

 

If you can though, I urge you to challenge my objectivity using any of my written stuff here.

 

 

If I recall correctly my reply was to your statement where you suggested that another member here should just get over a DV issue

No translation issue, yeah I was being ironic

 

You brought it up, DV, I just said that sexism is usually / probably stemming from butt-hurt males . Some female hurt them sometime and they decided to hate all women.

 

Plus yeah I did not understand your comment "worse justification for DV"  , which is total shit, cause this aint no justification, nothing justifies a man beating his wife, apart from the very nature of humans + social conditioning of a sexist and crypto-misogynistic society. Maybe we can agree on something ? 

 

But for sure, being hurt from a lady in the past, is no justification for no violent act.

 

whitewind

 

 

Mutant, you made me laugh when you suggested that homosexuality was abnormal and you were against it. I'm coming out (ha) on a limb here to ask why you call yourself mutant if not to celebrate chromosome changes that make people different?

 

I never said I was against it. Not very nice of you.

 

But yeah I thought it was abnormal AKA man-made, I thought it's simply a kind of neurosis, and in a way it really is!

 

At least you give me credit for doing research and finding out this is 100% natural and pretty widespread too  

 

So in my mind it's important whether a phenomenon is natural, AKA happens in the wild, compared to a clearly man/civilisation based phenonomenon.

 

But it's not that I am "against" the un-natural, because then I would be against myself communicating through a computer. ALso check comments about my nick.

 

But because I am a naturalist (AKA nature is the law) , it really helps the categorisation of why we do what we do, it really helps explain the behaviour of the human animal, by dividing our acts in instinctive/natural and other types.

 

You're asking why I have the name mutant, then.  Well its not about the natural evolution mutations.

 

The name is coming from my and also other peoples state, but I will explain it for me. Its mutant as a hybrid of the natural and the mechanic, the technology, you name it. Its a hybrid like Robocop, that kind of mutant I mean.

 

I love nature and all natural. And I love synthersizer sounds, electronics, I learn through computers and I am very curious about why is this and why is that and how this functions and shit..

 

So its a concept of bonding between worshipping nature and using lots of technology , and being able to still feel a natural hybrid of this world at the end of the day, where the natural becomes one with the un-natural.

 

Or something like that....

[mutant]

White wind>>

 

I often find there's not a lot between men and women and it's certainly variable across the ranges,

 

I find there are a lot. but yeah certainly variable.

 

I got some male friends that indeed have strong female quality. My own father too.

 

not the norm though....

 

so, can I see you natal (birth) chart?

Edited by mutant, 17 May 2013 - 07:15 PM.

[whitewind]

White wind>>

 

 

I find there are a lot. but yeah certainly variable.

 

I got some male friends that indeed have strong female quality. My own father too.

 

not the norm though....

 

so, can I see you natal (birth) chart?

 

Not the norm?  I don't even know what normal is, so I'm not going there.

 

Unfortunately, you can't see my chart as my mum refuses to give my time of birth, just so I can't do one.

 

Would love to have one though...

[ballzac]

he doesn't have a hope in hell of actually doing the job well
 this is bollocks that a father cannot be a pretty good father, at least compared to a 'mediocre' mother.

I'm genuinely not sure if you're just trolling at this point or not, but I'll respond to this anyway in case it was a genuine misunderstanding. A surrogate mother is a woman who physically carries another woman's child in her womb until term and then delivers it. AFAIK, this is not possible for a man to do with today's medical technology, and if it is, it certainly isn't easy.

[mutant]

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lol, sorry yep it seems should have looked up surrogate in the lexicon, sorry for that!

 

 

 

I also want to add that despite the heat, I agree with lots of stuff you're saying. Mainly the anti-pc stuffs. 

 

Whitewind,

 

there's a contradiction in what I say, as there is life actually.

 

I am saying male and female are different animals, with pretty disctinct characteristics, more or less. This is deternimed by the biological realities of gender.

 

On the same time, I am saying a male can bare female traits in his personality and vice versa, which is why some fathers are better "mothers" than some mothers and vice versa.

 

And of course it can get even more complicated.

 

PC and left wing / anarchist  point of views seem to regard the gener roles more or less a society thing.

 

Sure society oppresses us with all kinds of roles, not only related to our gender. But I suggest, many of these "roles" and insticts are biologically determined, so even though I do not underestimate social conditioning, I am saying there still exist strong in us the archetypal gender tendencies.

 

Exceptions only underline the rule, IMO

[whitewind]

People who bitch about women not being in high corporate positions, perhaps now need to leave that question alone and start asking different ones.  There are now rules in place to allow women to achieve equality when it comes to men's positions in the workplace, and how they run their lives, but the same rules do not apply to all the things many women seem to achieve regularly and effortlessly but men don't.

 

I aspire to be a stay at home parent, looking after my child more than I work.  I aspire to spend some of my time doing volunteer work, and art, maybe music.  But I need a nice woman to support my decisions, and I haven't found one yet.  Yet a lot of women seem to be able to achieve what I want, so what's going on?

 

Biological determinsim?  Or women choosing?

 

We've had many years of discussion about how women can achieve equality with men, perhaps it's now time to discuss the ways women lead better lives than men and how we can achieve equality with them.  I'll be honest with you, I haven't met many women who are willing to engage with me when I bring this subject up, so perhaps it's up to men to rise up and, metaphorically speaking, "burn our bras" (if anyone can come up with a suitable analogy to this, I'd love to hear it.  "Burn our Tools" perhaps?  LOL).

[mutant]

^^^^^^

awesomely honest post

like I said, its pretty complicated on each occasion, its pretty easy to draw the general lines, but not for a certain case

I dont really know you nor have access to yr chart so... 

home = cancer  , volunteer work = aquarium , art / music is Pisces    , PERHAPS just guessin

none of the three give a male this specific matcho/dominant/opressive mentality , typical of conservative males, on the contrary

 

Note: interesting here is that many males that socially pose as dominant and matcho alpha-males are in reality opressed by more dynamic female personalities at home. Because of this , they might behave nastily to all women. These men are rats , victims of their own gender roles, but at the same time they are the source of the problem : they maintain a sexist mentality out of a neurosis.

 

I like what you're saying about burning our male bras! 

 

I am into it. I like to bring awkward ideas that challenge matcho male mentality when I know there is someone present that has conservative ideas about genders and sexuality, like saying "male bisexuals , lucky bastards, they get to score twice as much than us normal heteros"  Or " I would love to be a bisexual "  or " I think I would be a pretty good homosexual, I might get on better with a male partner than a woman one "

 

because truth is I am rather difficult character in the sense of mating and staying together.

 

and stuff like this.

 

On the other side, when the PC crowd is involved, and because I really feel hetero and male inside, I also love to underline the differences between sexes, just to tease the PC's into my thoughts.

 

I  am a man of freedom and I like to challenge all dogmas, and the basis for this is everything flows/evolves.  I am a situationist , at least theoretically.

 

I truly believe people should do awkward things breaking the expected roles for the sole reason of fucking up with other people's [read sheep] brains. Doing and saying unexpected things is awesome!

 

I believe men should behave womanly and passively as far as they like to, and woman should become more male, socially stronger and more determined if they feel to.

 

This kind of stuff should scare the shit off conservatives .

 

many already think the male gender is vanishing.

Hey maybe this is good news after all!

 

I got another fucked up idea about gender evolution. I am not so pessimist about males, I rather think we got a third gender or another organ coming.

 

But we stupid humans do not realise it completely. Homosexuality and bisexuality is already the answer to lots of mankinds problems.

 

By realising and intergrating into the collective consciousness of the species that homophobia is only a form of latent homosexuality we might just archieve what we did not through leftish/anrchist/autonomist/libertarian ideologies.

Edited by mutant, 18 May 2013 - 09:56 PM.

[incognito]

Darklight owns shit!!! Yewww!!! Never do I barrack harder then when DL is on the rampage every time DL posts I get my cheerleaders outfit out and pom-poms swirling goooooooooooo darklight!! <splits>

[PerthShaman]

Definitely an issue with a lot of complicated layers. The idea of men staying at home is something most women would find uncomfortable. There is also the issue with shared custody of children when divorce is involved, and the lack of fairness in sharing said time with children.

[mutant]

i luv home

 

home is essential. especially if it's the core of a relatively happy and 'nice' family.

 

but I love to be hunter gatherer and the woman 'plays' traditionally , but I also love to cook for others, and care for the loved one

 

also love to play the shaman/  charlatan / situationist /  philosopher for the team.

 

yes its complicated

 

tonight I am checking out whther sagittarians tend to be more fascist than other signs. Scorpios and Aries were better candidates in my mind, from own speculations

 

perhaps I was wrong.

Edited by mutant, 20 May 2013 - 05:23 AM.

[whitewind]

I'm a Scorpio.  Sagittarians are fully fascist, we just play mind games