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#1 Tio

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:24 PM

Hello,

I am having trouble identifying this mushroom.
I was thinking maybe a Chlorophyllum spp. but that's as far as I have got.

Habitat:
Coastal area, Found growing directly under a small conifer on a mix of soil and conifer debris

Characteristics of the gills:
White and freely attached

Characteristics of the stem:
Very thick and large stem with a partial veil and a slightly bulbous base

Characteristics of the cap:
Convex with white and gray scales

Spore print color:
Pale white/cream spore print on black paper (sorry no photo)

Other interesting notes:
Pink/brown bruising where the stem was cut on 2 photo


First mushroom (pictures taken month ago)

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Second mushroom (pictures taken today but mushrooms is a few weeks old)

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I hope this is everything, Please ask me if I missed anything.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:12 PM

Hey Tio,

I'm no expert, but I'm thinking Macrolepoita rhaccodes (Shaggy Parasol Mushroom)

From what I read the Chlorophyllum are similar but have a pale green spore print.

Edited by Jox, 28 October 2012 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:03 AM

Cheers Jox,

According to Mushroom expert (http://www.mushroome...m_rhacodes.html)
"Chlorophyllum rhacodes has been called "Lepiota rhacodes" or "Macrolepiota rhacodes" in the past, but recent DNA studies (see Vellinga, 2002) have given the mushroom a new home in the genus Chlorophyllum, alongside the very similar Chlorophyllum molybdites"

I was thinking it could be a Chlorophyllum rhacodes but now Im unsure it could either be C. rhacodes, C. brunneum or maybe another Chlorophyllum.

Edited by Tio, 29 October 2012 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:39 AM

Anyone else have an Idea what these might be?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

It's probably C. rhacodes.

If you find these again post clear pictures of the bulbous base as these differ in the species and can aid identification.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:31 PM

Definately not Macro rhachodes. Probably a chlorophyllum


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:07 AM

Hi Mutant,

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

I thought Macrolepiota rhacodes and Chlorphyllum rhacodes are the same mushroom?



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:39 PM

Yep it seems they are synonym now

 

So it's probably  no Chlorophyllum rhacodes from what I see.

 

its some smaller chlorophyllum with not the double ring and not so prominent scales  (rhacos = cloth in greek referring to scales) . I would say C.agaricoides if I found this in greece, but I think it doesn't redden...


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

It's C. rachodes.

 

Here's a link to back up my id: http://virtualmycota...s.aspx?pk=33442


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:48 AM

it might be

 

I am not sure

 

http://virtualmycota...=false&PK=14763


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Posted Yesterday, 05:50 PM

Mutant I don't think It can be a C. agaricoides as they are Secotioid fungi and their cap does not open fully.

 


I have to agree with Karode13 it definitely seems like it could be a C. rachodes.

 

At the moment there is another one of these mushrooms growing under a large conifer in my property, so I can have a better look at that once it grows bigger.


Edited by Tio, Yesterday, 05:52 PM.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:16 PM

Take pictures of the stipe base from above. The shape of the basal bulb is a feature used to determine between the species. It's a Chlorophyllum though. I pick C. brunneum for the table. Look up Else C. Vellinga's papers. She rewrote the genus and those are the go to literature.


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