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[LadySwan]

Do you know if importing mimosa hostilis bark from usa to QLD is illigal? I couldn't find any information on the net suggesting that.
Anyone dealt with this seller from USA http://www.phytoextr...ered-p-141.html?

[Marcel]

Hello LadySwan.

It's very illegal, no matter what the vendor or anyone else tells you. If caught, you risk gaol time. Don't do it!

Have a search around. There are plenty of discussions on this topic, many with the exact same title as yours.

Be safe!

[TheExplorer]

It is most definitely illegal.

[Alice]

Ditto. Don't risk it LadySwan. People do and quite often they are lucky and the parcel slips through, or isn't recognised for what it is. But that doesn't mean that it is not illegal and could land you in a lot of trouble if it is intercepted by the wrong person and you are brought before the wrong magistrate.

Not at all work the risk when there is such an abundance of plants already in Australia that you could source locally and grow yourself, that are just as beautiful (if not more so) than Mimosa sp.

Plenty of info here about what is and isn't allowed to be imported. Check out the pinned threads (the top ones) in the Legal forum, there are links to the relevant legislation.

[DreamTimeBliss]

Has anyone ever had there packages confiscated by customs ?

Is the Root Bark illegal? Or is it the what people plan on doing with it thats illegal?

I ask because its an amazing natural purple dye and i dont think its illegal to be dying Tshirts.

Edited by DreamTimeBliss, 04 August 2012 - 05:39 PM.

[Shamanistic]

I know you probably don't want to have to grow your own stuff because otherwise you'd just buy mimosa hostilis seeds which are legal. However unfortunately, at least as far as I am aware, there is no product you can buy in Australia which you could extract from straight away and even then that is highly illegal if you were to do so anyway. You can find active acacia tubestock for very cheap if you know what species you are after though. You will still have to grow them but they are easier to find plus they're already established.

[Yeti101]

I agree with most of the posts above - it's illegal to import and it's illegal to possess.

[LadySwan]

Hi guys
thanks for your inputs, I guess it is not worth of trying, even though it is great natural dye ;)

[pete34]

i notice the yanks pay $100 to $200 for a cane toad

from what i have seen so far the richest/easiest dmt to be found

we all know how many cane toads are in oz

[pete34]

there are 2 types of DMT and the toad has the gooooood one

[LadySwan]

how can I sell cantoades to yankies? I usually catch them, freeze them and then dispose.

[∂an]

The cane toad in australia is the species Bufo Marinus and its toxin contains bufotenin, which is 5-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, but also a number of other compounds that are probably very toxic. Also bufotenin is not generally considered a pleasant experience. This species is often confused with 5-MeO-DMT containing Bufo Alvarius from the Sonaron Desert in the South West US, whose venom can be collected and dried to form a paste with about 30% 5-MeO-DMT and other alkaloids.

From an erowid page:

"There’s even a story going around that people were using bufo marinus, a common, giant toad native to Costa Rico, that was imported into both Hawaii and Australia as an attempted control on the sugar cane beetle. The “cane toad” is very common in a lot of places, and I know a lot of people who have extracted samples of their venom, and found that it’s inactive. It doesn’t do anything. Eating it’ll make you sicker than a dog, but smoking it does nothing. But the story persists. There is an American native toad, bufo alvarius, called the Colorado River Toad, which indeed has a strong DMT-like venom, which can be smoked." Bear Owsley in an interview with Bruce Eisner on May 17, 1998.

so probably not a good idea to start up a bufo marinus export business just yet...

[pete34]

Hi kalica

gee glad you knew that, save me chasing frogs and bufotenin

so they imported the wrong frog eh eh

so the DMT could be extracted?

Thanks
Pete

[Jox]

Cane Toads ( Bufo marinus) contain no 5-MeO-DMT.
The poisons contained in B. marinus could KILL you!!

[Torsten]

Toads are not frogs.

In australia the purpose of the import makes no difference to legality. Just think about it: if you were to mix heroin into shampoo would that make it legal to import or possess? ............ exactly!

[CβL]

Just think about it: if you were to mix heroin into shampoo would that make it legal to import or possess? ............ exactly!

Why didn't I think of that before, you are a genius!

[at0m]

Why didn't I think of that before, you are a genius!

I'm sure I read an article about someone trying this before and getting busted. Might have been a TV show, I don't remember.

[Goldtop]

Boarder security at0m Customs is onto everything. Plus when they weigh up the heroin, theyll include the weight of the shampoo and sting you for the following weight. Dont fuck with them! Only thing i try to sneak through is various seeds

[Alice]

I'm sure I read an article about someone trying this before and getting busted. Might have been a TV show, I don't remember.

This poor bugger?

http://www.abc.net.a...-shampoo/863982

[at0m]

Possibly, Alice. I have no idea to be honest. It was quite awhile ago.

[7baz]

i totally disagree with what everyone is saying.

please show me in the law that says mimosa hostilis IS ILLEGAL ???

[Torsten]

In the customs act it says that DMT and anything containing DMT is illegal. This law has been upheld for decades in court, so your disagreeing means very little.

[Therefore]

i totally disagree with what everyone is saying.

please show me in the law that says mimosa hostilis IS ILLEGAL ???

There's always one....

[7baz]

In the customs act it says that DMT and anything containing DMT is illegal. This law has been upheld for decades in court, so your disagreeing means very little.

my disagreeing means alot.
you say customs act... ACT .... what makes you think this ACT is even legal ?
Under common law this ACT is illegal and unconstitutional like most drug acts.
is someone being harmed ? is something being damaged ?

if any ACT or STATUE conflicts with the commonwealth then it is invalid and the high court says so.

ask any sovereign , they do not recognize any of the 600 illegal laws , acts and statues here in Australia because they are unconstitutional and illegal.
Plus as a sovereign those laws do not apply to them and again perfectly legal.

the drugs ACT fall under maritime admiralty law , law of the sea.

do i look like a product of the sea ?

[Therefore]

Oh ha ha 7baz i see what you did there mate.
Just setting the bait in your earlier post so someone would bite. Then you pull out your ACT doesn't exist and constitution is illegal blah blah.
Clever boy