Who Do You Work For?
Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:52 AM
Forsure whitewind, have worked in nurseries, small buisness and big contract government jobs within the hort industry. A vast majority of those i worked with had no love of plants of even the environment that sustains them, fairly weird. One of the main contributing factors for me deciding too abadon that idea for a career path. kinda sad as i really enjoyed the work but the people and way things are/were run in the end just annoyed me too much. Would have loved to give bush regen a go and still might in the future but for now ill try my hand at attempted academia
Some of coolest peoples i met in the industry were from when i was studing hort, not so much in the workplace
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:22 PM
Be warned, regen is a hard slog.
I think another interesting thread would be what jobs u have had in the past. Mine would be massive. A list followed by a q for quit or a s for sacked.
Barman, glassy, bar supervisor bar manager.
WAiter, professional footballer, dish pig, kitchen hand, , gaming attendant, gaming supervisor. Car wash attendant. Roofbat installer.
Garbage man, timber yard laborer, concreter, paver, landscaper, nursery hand, nursery manager. Disability support person, disability support coordinator. Drug and alcohol house manager, drug and alcohol counsellor. Social worker, group Therapy facilitator, hr manager/overseer. That's about it. At a ratio of 80% quit to 20% fired ;)
My most favourite best paid and hours job was garbage man though. I was silly to quit thAt job.
Worst job was bar manager of the no. 3 most violent pub in nsw- in regards to reported physical assaults. It was a horrible life experience.
The evilest people I have met have been some of the people working in the disability support industry.
Most stressful was social work, I was close to a nervous breakdown. Douche awards go to the "recovered" addicts working in drug and alcohol field. Man those guys where heavy. I wanted to take massive amounts of drugs just to be in the same room as them. I think they would have been much nicer on drugs. I don't think they where effective counsellors either, for the most they where unapproachable, and revelled at making others feel like shit, as this was the way to make people face their addiction and make progress?
D&a workers are ALMOST as scary as disability support workers.
I loved landscaping and nursery work. Again some of the best folks I've
Et have worked in that industry.
But for me the pay is horrendous, an ur right, the last thing u wanna do when u get home is play with plants, so in a way sucks enjoyment out of a pleasurable past time, for shit money.
Edited by incognito, 13 June 2012 - 05:00 PM.
To lie here and die among the sorrows
Adrift among the days
Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:41 PM
the pay is horrendous, an ur right, the last thing u wanna do when u get home is play with plants, so in a way sucks enjoyment out of a pleasurable past time, for shit money.
i fell into amenity horticulture after tafe, not many of the workers i've met have any proper education in horticulture which is a shame.
thinking about the wider issue of personalities i work, i think the climate is part of the issue. in brisbane, amenity horticulture has fuck all to do with growing plants, and everything to do with containing and controlling them. i'm not saying it has to be that way, but it is.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:50 PM
Awesome to see a few reptile relocators on here.. Do you also keep reptiles?
Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:18 PM
Work in a distribution center for one of the big 2 down here and has now for near 11 years. Started out as a picker/packer in our ambient section and later moved over to coldstorage, nowadays run the despatch side of things making sure the trucks get loaded on time and have to answer a billion phonecalls a week regarding missing pallets of stock. The amount we loose a week could likely feed a small country town without problem!
Can't say I jump out of bed every morning and can't wait to get to work but it pays the bills, half and half thinking about tossing in the stressy office job and going back on the floor again!
Also do some limited freelance work as a 3D modeler for the computer games industry, "worked" for the same upstart studio for years now unpaid pending the release of a finished product. Time will tell what will come from that.
As for work history, can't say it's checkered but I've gone through a fair few different ones over the years, most of them being temp summer jobs. Swede by birth and with the short summers up north everyone wants their holidays at the same time, combined with a 10 week school summer break it gives schoolkids a great oportunity to get some temp jobs over summer.
Can't say the first "job" was a 100% voluntary though as with mandatory army service I was drafted and 3 days after graduating year 12 I sat my ass down on the buss. Spent 11 months as a transport squadleader running an infantry refuelling squad up north in Sweden before getting placed into the wartime reserves.
Then I temped over summer in a local steelmills water treatment plant for 10 weeks before doing a TAFE cource to remedy some substandard grades in order to get into uni.
Fixed the grades up and applied for a computer science cource, at the same time though I also applied for another time limited job. Got accepted for both and picked the one I wanted most, luckily the uni let me defer my start by a year so I still kept my place there.
The job I wanted was a spot in Sweden's peacekeeping force in Bosnia, so it was once again back in uniform, spent 7 months deployed again in a transport squad running the camps refuelling station.
Then another temp summer job for the local council mowing lawns before a year of uni where I figured out I really didn't want to spend the rest of my days behind a desk (guess what I'm driving nowadays!)
Between uni terms I again temped, this time as a steelmill floor worker. Doing edge sharpening and tempering of strip steel. Before going back for a second term at uni I instead opted to drop out and see what else I could find, luckily my old boss was more then happy to take me back this time on a permanent basis. Worked there for a few years before I took the biggest step of my life, quit my job, sold of all but a few suitcases worth of clothes and some books, waved bye to family and friends to move down to Sydney to be with a woman I'd met through Mirc.
Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:43 AM
Edge sharpering and tempering would have been interesting, and useful!
Edited by incognito, 27 July 2012 - 10:48 AM.
To lie here and die among the sorrows
Adrift among the days
Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:38 PM
The tempering maching was induction based, tip of the edge ran through a coil that you pumped enough electricity into that the tip of the edge heated to the correct temperature. Bloody thing cost me a split fingertip and god knows what other damage from just the magnetic field around it. Being young and dumb I used a classic walkman rather than ear protection and just walking within 2 meters of the machine all you got in the earphones was static!
Sharpening machine was a dinosaur from the late 60's, loud, dirty and a pain to work with. Cost me a few more cuts plus some nice bruises, 3mm thick steel coiled up like a watch spring has a fair bit of omph if you loose grip of the end!
Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:15 PM
Anyway, I have answered the poll, but figured it might be interesting to have a yarn about what I've done. My very first job was at age 11; delivering junk mail a couple of blocks away. The pay was so bad (I think it worked out to about $1.2k per year for working 2-3 days per week for a few hours folding, and then a few more hours delivering) - after a while I just got sick of it and dumped them into the bushes instead of delivering them. Got fired from that one...
My next job was electronics retail (I worked for 2 companies over a period of about 4 years; 1 year on weekends during high school, 1.5 years fulltime, 1 year part-time when first year at uni). This job was pretty awesome. The only thing I hated was the fact that we were asked to "not be entirely truthful" (not with those words though) when dealing with customers, to make targets on bullshit (like monster cables, and TV warranties). What I enjoyed the most was having to talk to people all day long; including my workmates and customers. Normally I'm a pretty quiet guy, and don't really talk to people. I also usually cannot make "small talk" convincingly (how's that weather coming along...). But this job was awesome. I was just on autopilot, using some kind of script (I would use roughly the same phrases in different combinations, and hone them to perfection) and I felt like a normal everyday joe talking rubbish and I didn't even care.
"Hey sir, your TV is in our warehouse - do you know where that is?" "No?" "Oh, you'll have to drive to East Tamaki" (about an hour away') <customer looks shocked> "haha, just joking, it's around the corner...."
Another job I had which was awesome was being a transport adviser during the Rugby World Cup. I would basically just ask "Where are you going tonight?" <someplace> "Oh, well then you need to take that lane/bus/train." or yell "TRAINS TO <SOMEPLACE> OVER HERE!!!"
Also just talked to the people I was working with the entire time, or practiced music theory while standing around. And my flatmate also worked the same job too, which was cool.
My latest job was a software developer for a small NZ company. I got paid fuck all, but I was allowed to come in whenever I wanted, and leave when I want, etc. It was awesome. The shit part came when I needed to interface my software with some other guy's software (via internet protocols), and he was too busy to help me when I was free (as in, make the interface I needed), and then uni got hard and I didn't have enough time to work through it when he had more time. So my boss thought I was just making excuses for ages, when I was actually totally bottlenecked by this other guy's code not being in existence.
Currently, just trying to finish up my last semester of uni, and then I have a software job lined up for next year in the US.