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[Chef's Foreskin]

Hey SAB

In the next couple of weeks im planning to sow down almost a thousand seeds and will post pic's once they have germinated but am just wondering what is the most amount of seed you guy's have thrown down at once and of what seed?

Just curious
RF

Edited by Rumple Foreskin, 15 April 2012 - 09:30 AM.

[Evil Genius]

A clone is a word that you would only use for a cutting. The amount of seed that you can sow into a container depends on how clean the seed is. If its washed and treated somehow, you can put down up to 1000 seeds in one container. But i wouldnt recommend that. You can only germinate a certain amount of seeds in one cycle. And after they´ve germinated they need a diffrent setup with dryer conditions. So starting another germinating cycle with increased humidity right after the first one wouldnt be optimal for the fresh seedlings as it increases the risk of fungal infection. So you would be forced the re-locate the first germinated seedlings at a very young age, what would probably mean that some of them die from a broken root. If i were you, i wouldnt germinate more than 500 seeds per container. Thats i good amount but without the increased risk for fungal infections. Because the more crowded seed lies on the soil, the more likely it will be contaminated by molds. With seeds all over the soil, mold has a lot of space to attack. In my opinion, Trichocereus Bridgesii is able to grow under a wide range of conditions and usually does best if sown in crowded containers. Good Luck!

[Chef's Foreskin]

Thanks EG I was thinking maybe 200 x 5 container's so that way I can have 5 different types of Trich's growing.

[whitewind]

I use the takeaway container method and I wouldn't sow more than 100 in each. You can keep about 50 small seedlings in each for a few years if needs be, while you transplant the few you want to grow on. In seedling trays about 100 would be about right, have a look at this thread where Tripsis has 10 x 8 in a seedling tray, nicely spaced with plenty of light.

[Chef's Foreskin]

Thanks WhiteWind, That looks much more neat and tidy. I have to go to the nursery and bunning's so I'll see what I can find.
Looks like tripsis may have the winning amount of seed sown at once!
RF

[2Deep2Handle]

if ur at bunnings rumple, buy yourself 3-4 of those $7 seedling starter trays with humidi lid with 2 vents....they are great...remove the plastic cell tray inside it, and replace with 4-6 65-125mm pots with 20-100 in each etc..... one genus in each starter dome, and one species in each pot is how i do

[Chef's Foreskin]

Sounds like I should have used my head before posting this thread lol
I do love the sound of the bunning's starter domes, not bad for $7 either

No one has told me they sow 361 852 546 seeds at once

[2Deep2Handle]

EG (Evil genius) and others have been known to sow thousands at a time! max of about 200 at a time for me of any one species....

[Chef's Foreskin]

Im only planning that many A) Allow for trial and error and B )Give away some here.
Will give me plenty of experiments to muck around with.
Sounds like it will keep me busy for the next yr or two

[LokStok]

when would you find time to do this Rumple

[Chef's Foreskin]

When I get back home its so shit being in a whole different state. Don't know many people.

I think I know what you mean LokStok

[RyanVolle]

damn RF... a thousand seeds for cacti? O_O that should be a world record unless someone sowed a million seeds for cacti :D
i planted a lot of S. Hispanica seeds (native to Australia btw, brought by my uncle [hes the same uncle i sent you a PM with, RF] for my family to eat and be healthy and i plant it instead )

[Chef's Foreskin]

damn RF... a thousand seeds for cacti? O_O that should be a world record unless someone sowed a million seeds for cacti :D

Lol, nah mate, I don't think so. Will be a decent effort on my side though. Never done that many.
I've decided to keep it to 100 per pot so at the moment its 10 different trays with 5 different Trich's
RF

[slice]

i am going to sow a lot of seeds myself very soon.using 29x22, 10cm high(5cms soil) tupperwares, kindda milky white plastic.the consideration here is that sowing so many seeds at once will require a lot of work separating each seedling and repotting it later so what ill do is place 200 seeds in each container, hoping for 100-150 to germinate, in this size container I believe i will have TIME to do the repotting job gradually with out having too many seedlings stunted because they are so overcrowded.Im sowing about 3000 seeds.
last year i germinated in a small container about 1000-700 seeds of icaro, the result was this:

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Edited by slice, 16 April 2012 - 03:54 AM.

[Evil Genius]

Good job. What type of soil did you use, slice?

[slice]

I did use cactus soil from german "florabella" with some added coir. for my next "plantation" I am using their standard soil which is pretty decent (50%) + 25% coir + 25% perlite.

[dionysus]

i can't remember who it was, but i remember a while back a US member was sewing out thousands of seeds a year and leaving them out in the cold in an attempt to end up only with more cold hardy genes, which they planned to breed together to (hopefully) end up with a trich clone that could readily survive their harsh winters... i wonder whatever happened to their endeavor, i would be interested to see their progress.

edit: typo

Edited by dionysus, 16 April 2012 - 08:00 AM.

[Chef's Foreskin]

hoping for 100-150 to germinate, in this size container I believe i will have TIME to do the repotting job gradually with out having too many seedlings stunted because they are so overcrowded.

That sounds like the go

Im sowing about 3000 seeds.

What kind of seed are you planning to throw down? Sounds like there may be some serious cacti around in a year or so

[Chef's Foreskin]

i can't remember who it was, but i remember a while back a US member was sewing out thousands of seeds a year and leaving them out in the cold in an attempt to end up only with more cold hardy genes, which they planned to breed together to (hopefully) end up with a trich clone that could readily survive their harsh winters... i wonder whatever happened to their endeavor, i would be interested to see their progress.

edit: typo

Would that work? If that did that's a pretty clever idea.. I wonder how we can find out?
RF

[planthelper]

if you are new to sowing out, than i would not plant out 1000 seeds per tray, for various reasons.

sometimes, things go wrong, and this could be, that the container falls to the ground, or the set up is not good, and than you would have lost the whole batch.
first just do a small run, and if all works well, duplicate the tek.
i sieve the toplayer of the potting mix, i use, so to give the small seeds the best chance of germination.

some people say, that old seeds which, don't want to germinate, will germinate if they have been exposed to light for a few days befor sowing out.
the seedling trays / containers have to be stored absolutly save, meaning, no cat can throw them down from a shelve, no mice will be able to dig them up, and not too much sun will burn them.

good luck!

[Chef's Foreskin]

if you are new to sowing out, than i would not plant out 1000 seeds per tray, for various reasons.

I'm not planning to do that, The idea is to have 100 per container, I'm even considering less now.
I do have one old pack of 100 trich seed so I will leave em out for a while

Thankyou PlantHelper
RF

[incognito]

Bah. Jump in the deepens and learn to swim

[Chef's Foreskin]

Bah. Jump in the deepens and learn to swim

That's the idea as I have never sown more then 200 at once (seperate container's) so atm if I go with what I'm doing I should be able to care for them all (in there seperate containers)

[Evil Genius]

It was Auxin. The member with the bridgesii and the frost. Would love to hear an update as well.

[RyanVolle]

hey E.G. i just added auxin OwO
turns out that this forum has a lot of members it was like the 8th page where i found auxin ._.
are you 'teh' founder of this forum?