I'm still not completely convinced that caffeine is this dangerously addictive drug that people claim it to be. I mean, obviously I've known a few people who claim to get withdrawals symptoms from not getting there daily coffee hits. But I doubt there's any actual brain chemistry going on that's actually causing the addiction, but rather people convince themselves they need it, which causes a psychological addiction.
Also, just like cannabis, some people might be using coffee to relieve the symptoms of other conditions so that when they stop, they start getting the symptoms of the condition they were using the substance for in the first place.
With coffee these so called withdrawal symptoms, would probably be due to a bad diet, lack of sleep or not enough water. I mean, I know some people here who have claimed to be caffeine addicts will want to come out telling me about how brilliant there diets are and how they sleep for 9 hours straight every night. But in my experience, it just isn't the case with people who claim to be addicted to caffeine.
Just thinking back now, I actually remember years ago I'd be dry reaching and ready to pass out from dizziness on my way to work, if I didn't stop at my local servo for an iced coffee, first thing in the morning. I'd also feel like shit if I didn't continue drinking sugar drenched energy drinks though out the day. But back then I never used to even give a second thought to what I put in my body and certainly didn't concern myself with getting the right amount of vitamins and all the rest. But now I try to take care of myself, I can go from over 600mg of caffeine a day for long periods, to nothing, without any of these so called "withdrawal symptoms". It's not like I don't have an addictive personality either, I'm seriously a person who usually gets psychologically addicted to everything I enjoy and I do love the feeling I get from dropping 4 no doz pills, first thing in the morning.
lol, it would not be a smart thing to be anywhere near me when I have no tobacco, even for an hour. I'm talking an 'extremely' short temper, major body aches and debilitating depression & anxiety. Basically I feel like my whole bodies shutting down without tobacco.
Anyway, personally I think it would be an interesting experiment to see if people who claim to be addicted to coffee got any relief from just dropping 1 no doz pill instead?
btw, it ain't a myth amanito. Ask anyone who's at the peak of there fitness, we are not koalas! The human body needs large amounts of straight water everyday to be able to operate at full capacity. But, whatever brother.
i may not be entirely convinced the earth is round (or spherical) but rather flat, but my conviction is completely 100% redundant.
likewise, your conviction or lack of is also redundant, inane... firstly, the only person who has said caffeine is "dangerously addictive" is you. secondly, regardless of your opinion, and regardless of what safeway says (do you seriously consider them a credible source?), caffeine:
a) causes psychological dependence.
b ) causes physical dependence.
c) causes withdrawal symptoms (X hours after cessation, if physical dependence has developed)
d) the earth is spherical
you and your phd in pharmacology and your other phd in brain function, and psychology doubt that there's any actual brain chemistry going on that's actually causing the addiction, as an omniscient being, you know that people convince themselves they need it.
by the way, i learned that caffeine caused physical dependence after i had become dependent on caffeine, and i learned that it caused withdrawals halfway through experiencing them, back then i had no idea about physical dependence and withdrawals.
i'm sure many people that became physically and psychologically dependent to benzos after their trigger happy GP gave them half a dozen scripts had no idea that benzos caused these dependences.
i see you're also a dietician and a sleep specialist, and you clearly show your deep understanding of the difference between physical and psychological dependence here:
"I can go from over 600mg of caffeine a day for long periods, to nothing, without any of these so called "withdrawal symptoms". It's not like I don't have an addictive personality either
, I'm seriously a person who usually gets psychologically addicted to everything I enjoy and I do love the feeling I get from dropping 4 no doz pills, first thing in the morning."
it seems as though you allegedly
have a physical and a psychological dependence to tobacco, but i'm not entirely convinced that tobacco even causes these dependences.
what are you even contributing to this thread? there's a guy here who's suffering from debilitating caffeine dependence and you're trying to say that it's not even real, that he's just making it up. do you tell people with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia that they are just imagining things also? what about people with asbestosis?
get a grip man.
Edited by chnt, 05 February 2012 - 06:55 AM.