klip247 Posted January 24, 2012 I was wondering if bees collecting nectar from brugmansia flowers often would cause the honey to be toxic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel Posted January 24, 2012 I'm not sure what the science is behind it, but I know that that particular issue has been a matter of concern in some honey-producing regions of Europe. I recall reading somewhere of a region of Germany where Brugmansia cultivation was prohibited because of the strong local honey industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poisonshroom Posted January 25, 2012 Yeah, Iv definitely heard of people being poisoned by honey made from datura and brugmansia pollen. All parts of the plant contain tropanes including the pollen, so it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterboy 2.0 Posted January 25, 2012 Yes it can produce toxic honey, would depend on the location of the plants and degree of reliance on nectar feeding. Oleander is another to be aware of, there are a few other notable cases - typically the nectar in non-toxic to the bees. hives Beehives are removed from agricultural areas when poppy crops are grown broadacre Cheers WB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klip247 Posted January 25, 2012 Hmmm.. excellent feedback this is quite risky business, looks like I'm going to have to do some brainstorming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kadakuda Posted January 26, 2012 "Beehives are removed from agricultural areas when poppy crops are grown broadacre " Really? Does the resulting honey from an almost exclusively poppy colelcted hive have any effects on people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert&Ernie Posted January 26, 2012 I once watched a episode of the hairy bikers and they where in a county (cant remember where) which had psychoactive honey. So its defiantly possible that the poppy honey might give some opiate like effects. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ambient Posted January 29, 2012 I once watched a episode of the hairy bikers and they where in a county (cant remember where) which had psychoactive honey. So its defiantly possible that the poppy honey might give some opiate like effects. Thats pretty cool, should start a hive in my garden, who knows what the honey will do 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alienteaparty Posted January 29, 2012 This isn't really related, but i remember reading somewhere that in some parts of the middle east they would grow Cannabis plants next to bee hives and enjoy the THC ridden honey. Sounds like an interesting concept if you ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klip247 Posted November 18, 2012 Is there any scientific data proving that there are indeed tropanes present in both the nectar and pollen of Brugmansia or is it all just hearsay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poisonshroom Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) EDIT: - just realized I'v already posted pretty much what i was going to say I shouldnt post things first thing in the morning Edited November 18, 2012 by poisonshroom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornilius maximus Posted November 19, 2012 Youse may find this paper interesting; presumed angel trumpet poisoning.pdf peace cornilius maximus presumed angel trumpet poisoning.pdf presumed angel trumpet poisoning.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornilius maximus Posted November 19, 2012 And maybe this one too; Attraction, deterrence or intoxication of bees (Apis mellifera) by plant allelochemicals.pdf peace cornilius maximus Attraction, deterrence or intoxication of bees (Apis mellifera) by plant allelochemicals.pdf Attraction, deterrence or intoxication of bees (Apis mellifera) by plant allelochemicals.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornilius maximus Posted November 19, 2012 Sorry bout the overload, but I think that this one is particularly interesting as well; The ecological signi?cance of toxic nectar.pdf happy reading peace cornilius maximus The ecological signi?cance of toxic nectar.pdf The ecological signi?cance of toxic nectar.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klip247 Posted November 19, 2012 Some good info there cornilius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullit Posted November 25, 2012 need shit loads of brugz growing like shit loads and no other flowers in tha area!! 4 tha honey to b toxic!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poisonshroom Posted November 25, 2012 You would think, but the tropanes in brugmansia and datura are very potent (a couple of mg could kill you) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruman Posted November 25, 2012 http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13137&st=0&p=170997&hl=+honey%20+zealand&fromsearch=1entry170997 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
