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[Bretloth]

Been seeing that one eyed Thrive movie/movement poster getting about and made me wonder, looked like illuminati symbolism to me so googled thrive movement illuminati and found this. The thrive movement smells fishy to me ~ http://helpfreetheea...461_thrive.html

[Xenodimensional]

I see the point they're trying to make but wonder if they have actually watched it (and any of the disclosure project ). He says straight up who he is and what his past was. He couldn't bag P&G too much or else his allowance would be cut off or he'd probably magically 'dissapear' :-0 He goes some way into explaining who the illuminati/ruling class/overlords are in the film, it doesn't take a genius to see that the owners of the world bank call the shots; and I doubt there are hooded occultists controlling them.

I also wonder how it could possibly be in his interest to have made this movie if he wasn't motivated by the film's claims. I think if he had any hidden agenda it would have made more sense to have an unknown independant film maker produce it.

[∂an]

Yeah not too sure about any illuminati connection lol. Pretty flimsy documentary if you ask me... free energy? UFO abductions? new world order? Seems to me like they are just trying to cash in on the growing obsession with conspiracy theories. A big marketing ploy.

[ThunderIdeal]

i immediately noticed that thrive looked REALLY slick.

hard to trust anyone with a mega-corporation background, but, that said, the link you provided bretloth was pretty unbalanced IMHO. among other things, just because some people might interpret symbols to be satanist and/or evil, doesn't mean that we can just write the symbol off as being evil. i dunno. it doesn't seem like a very cosmic approach. you may have noticed i put the all-seeing eye in my new avatar.

[Bretloth]

I dont buy into the whole satanism thing. Not sure if there even is an illuminati. I just find it all interesting. Seems to be a few of these things getting about, wayseers manifesto, eden project, zietgiest etc etc. Not quite sure what to make of them exept they all just seem off, not quite right. Probably just money spinners.

Edited by Bretloth, 03 December 2011 - 10:20 PM.

[SunChaser]

I don’t know about the illuminati and UFO’s and all the rest. But I do give the idea far more credit than the other BS people believe. Like a powerful and enlightened entity that can create the earth with a click of the fingers, yet gets angry, jealous and despiteful. Or the belief that after death you will have an existence of infinite bliss, provided you follow a few petty rules.

Aliens creating us and then leaving evidence of there presence on earth, which were discovered by people who created a secret society, just seems a lot more logical to me than all those other stupid fairy tales I was brainwashed as a child to believe.

Peace

[Bretloth]

Been doing a bit more looking into it, bloody slick. The characters involved make me suspicious, David Icke, Deepak Chopra and Barabara Marx Hubbard inparticular. Wouldn't trust any of them one bit. I'm not sure if there is an illuminati or not, but big business is conspiritorial by nature, it makes business sense to bribe politicians and coerce media. And the globalist agenda isn't going away. I have the suspicion all these movements of late if they aren't just money spinners, the maybe apart of this ~ http://www.green-age...nitedfaith.html and this ~ http://green-agenda....governance.html

[ErraneousHerbalist]

I watched the movie online myself, I agree. It doesn't appear to me to be anything more than well... hmm... a wolf dressed in a sheep's clothing. Most if not all of the topics mentioned in the movie did not lead anywhere. The ideas were presented with no conclusion or anything. They may have down this so you could come to your own decision but, me thinks otherwise...

[SunChaser]

I can’t actually watch the whole documentary since I’m using telstra prepaid broadband, which is a complete rip off.

But from all the research I’ve done and all the clips I’ve seen about this thrive movement, I have to say I’m getting a weird vibe. I don’t know but it just seems like there trying to push the NWO philosophy from the Georgia Guidestones. A human cull of mass proportions.

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature

lol, doesn’t actually sound too bad, as long as you were one the 500 million of course.

Peace

[Xenodimensional]

Hmmm.. I've watched it and I didn't get that from it at all.... maybe I missed something...?

[SunChaser]

I watched the movie online myself, I agree. It doesn't appear to me to be anything more than well... hmm... a wolf dressed in a sheep's clothing. Most if not all of the topics mentioned in the movie did not lead anywhere. The ideas were presented with no conclusion or anything. They may have down this so you could come to your own decision but, me thinks otherwise...

Yeah, maybe the purpose was to show us all these complex world issues with no clear solution, so to make us more placid about the idea of drastic action. Trying to convince us that we are a cancer on the earth and that we need to create a new form of evolution.

Peace

[Bretloth]

This may or may not be applicable ~

“Man possesses, for a small moment in his
history, the most powerful combination of knowledge,
tools, and resources the world has ever known. He has
all that is physically necessary to create a totally new form
of human society - one that would be built to last for
generations. The two missing ingredients are a realistic,
long-term goal that can guide mankind to the equilibrium
society and the Human Will to achieve that goal.”
- Club of Rome,
Limits to Growth (1972)

“The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome,
The First Global Revolution (1992)

[Bretloth]

The thing that really bothers me about all these groups and movements is, I for the large part agree with them. Which makes me wonder where my beliefs came from.. Are they my own thoughts, or have I been influenced, or some combination of both. We live in interesting times.

[noshiewa]

i watched the whole movie didnt seem to be much new info mostly just coverin all the same stuff was lookin to find something wrong with it but couldnt really, i might watch it again though. id say it would be an idea to watch the whole movie befor jumping to conclusions ie. populatin reduction and that they seem to be against it and tryin to find a way round it.

[SunChaser]

populatin reduction and that they seem to be against it and tryin to find a way round it.

Is that what they said? We are against nuking 6 and a half billion people. just came straight out with it, lol.

My comment was made after hearing the opinions of the creators of the movie. Watching it won't change there opinion.

Peace

[myco]

i watched this doco the other day
didnt get much out of it
half of it seemed to be ripped straight off zietgiest

[Mycot]

There is an interesting discusion on the Thrive movement at Reality Sandwich Here.
It seems that many there are less than impressed.
I thought the sections on money power in the Zeitgist film quite good.

Edited by Mycot, 08 December 2011 - 08:10 PM.

[Bretloth]

Interesting read. I'm not particularily impressed with reality sandwhich and the evolver movement either, Daniel Pinchbeck really didn't like me asking where all the money and donations go lol.. Don't like being questioned guru types, oddly enough..

Edited by Bretloth, 10 December 2011 - 02:41 PM.

[∂an]

Ironically, it was through Daniel Pinchbecks twitter feed that I found out about Thrive. something like "everyone should watch this documentary, it will change your life". After seing it I thought that was really odd as it did not seem to line up with his ideology at all, and wouldn't think an intellectual like him would want to even associate themselves with it. I used to dislike daniel pinchbeck, he came across as arrogant or something, but after reading breaking open the head I can see where he is coming from. Reality Sandwich is pretty good quality commentary I think.