PD. Posted November 29, 2007 (edited) The past few days i have been lucky enough to travel through Victoria to see some very old collections and get some insight to when and more importantly what exactly was impoted way back in the late twenties to thirties. The first garden we visited was Robert Fields collection that was started by his father. The Tricho collection was collected by Ritter and co between 1927 to 1930. This stock was probably the first imports of trichos into Australia way back when there were no restrictions on importing plants. The stock was sent around aus and was also the stuff that was sent to the Bendigo farm (Dawson) and no doubt many others. The names of some plants may be disputed by a few here but there is no way i would argue the naming as that is what they were labeled when sent here all that time ago. Of course a few of the bridgesii i was shown looked nothing at all like the standard bridge we are accustomed to, but as Robert told me, they were collected from the regions where these plants are most common so there can be alot of variation throughout the many kilometers that the party travelled. here we go..... T. lamproclorus T. candicans Trichocereus x Echinopsis hybrid "Whiora" produced by Fields T. thelegonus T. vollianus T. camarguensis T. kubianus/knuthianus T. kubianus/knuthianus T. bridgesii longispinus T. chiloensis longispinus T. chiloensis longispinus T. valida T roseii # 1 T. roseii # 1 "WK" T. randaltii T. herzogianus var tortarensis T. tscheckoides var larajensis T. roseii # 2 T. roseii # 2 T. bridgesoid T. valida T. macrogonus T. bridgesoid I was most interested in T. roseii, it was a spectacular plant. I asked of the naming and was told that was its labeled name when it arrived in 1927 or so. I said that it has been disputed as it has been said it is a T. peruvianus and was told very definitely that no it was roseii and it came in 2 distinct forms, that being #1 and #2, number 1 being the longer spined variant. It is the most beautiful tricho i have laid eyes on, extremely blue and in full sun it is FAT as hell. I have some of both forms for prop and will try make it available when i have enough to go around. The second planting we visited was the old "Dawsons" cactus farm in Bendigo. I spent some time with the owner John and had a good chat and wander throughout. Most plants and seeds were originally sourced from Fields cactus farm as Fields and Dawson were close friends. There was not as large a variation of species as Fields farm but the size of some Trichos there is unbelievable. The pictures just dont do them justice. This particular planting will soon be opening to the public so i suggest you check it out if you get the chance. and finally, a few others we spotted along the way. Edited November 29, 2007 by Passive Daemon 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark80 Posted November 29, 2007 That is sexy as hell. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mu! Posted November 29, 2007 veeeery nice. good to see some familiar faces in there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaBReT00tH Posted November 29, 2007 wow, I acquired 2 pups from a very mature cactus a few suburbs away which above you labelled T. kubianus/knuthianus. Looks quite bizarre! is it potent? And is the label of it kubianus or knuthianus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted November 29, 2007 What can I say.... incredible! Thanks for that man. That last photo in the first bunch, the bridgesoid, is definately what can be found locally and what I've considered macrogonus. The cut flesh has a very different consistency - slimey whereas the bridgesii I've seen is quite dry/crisp. It would be interesting to find out if it could be tied in to the Huntington Gardens plant somehow. That valida is awesome and the flowers on the "Whiora" hybrid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiterasta Posted November 29, 2007 Absolutely stunning! You Aussies really are the shit when it comes to Tricho plantings. I only dream of such a permanent home for my plants. I was glad to finally see a T. valida, first actual plant of that species I have seen. And the bridgesoid in the first group is a huge thick beast. I am envious of your trip and very thankful for the pics. I think I would shit and fall back for a cutting of any one of those pictured. Great post!! WR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted November 29, 2007 wow, I acquired 2 pups from a very mature cactus a few suburbs away which above you labelled T. kubianus/knuthianus. Looks quite bizarre! is it potent? And is the label of it kubianus or knuthianus? Would have no idea on potency and dont intend to find out, im sure someone here could tell you. Robert wrote T. kubianus first of but remarked that it is also known as knuthianus. I have seen it refered to mostly as knuthianus and it is labeled as such at the Tasmanian BG. I will get back there soon for round two of information as the visit the other day was very exhausting, almost 4 hours of information is hard for my lil brain to take in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted November 29, 2007 and the flowers on the "Whiora" hybrid... Yep, i loved that one also, a Tricho with the typical Echinopsis flowers, i had to get a cutting :D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted November 29, 2007 Amazing collections there man, that must have been fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted November 29, 2007 that roseiii is supposed to be special...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osprey Posted November 30, 2007 Awesome! I love the big Validus. I planted some 7 years ago and they are about the size of grapes now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auntyjack Posted November 30, 2007 thats just awesome...how do you do it passive? who needs viagra when you've passive porn! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bit Posted November 30, 2007 I know someone who would kill for a look around that collection, is it open to the public at all? Personally, I would kill for a piece of that roseii :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted December 1, 2007 Thanks Passive, I love the photos! Of course I have to complain about the size. Hey, I know you're dial-up like I am most of the time, but try Irfan as you can keep the kb fairly small but still have the photos viewing size a bit nicer so we can see some of the detail. Here a good example below of T. tarmaensis. This was originally 819kb and now is 117kb using Irfan. The size was only cut from 1632x1224 (original) to 1024x768 (resized and "sharpened"). I've always used PhotoShop, but I like Irfan better. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kakti Posted December 1, 2007 Absolutely incredible pictures, very much appreciated. The T. Chiloensis are beauties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted December 1, 2007 That huge bridgesii growing by the person's house in one of those pics near the bottom of PD's first post looks similar to me to that "Bruce" clone - based on the close-up, and the pics I saw of the Bruce clone... The close-up is from that same cactus no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted December 1, 2007 wau, you obviously found the motherload, it looks like this is the place most of our pedros originated. the macrogonus obviously is what we call lance, and as said before some of those cacti look very much like bruce/eileen. i'm with you guy's about the roseii, my heart cries out for a cutting of this beauty. thank you very much for sharing this!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted December 1, 2007 So is it true to say that the rosei has no centrals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted December 4, 2007 Is this what you were doing right before we saw you on Thursday?! *ENVY* Now I have to come back to VIC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hebrew Posted December 4, 2007 wow passive you are one lucky bastard beautiful pics man thanks for sharing. yeah i have been after a rosei for a year or so now so if any are available i will love to talk man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Micromegas Posted January 7, 2009 Bump! I was cruising the Nook and noticed a link to this thread. That's quite an amazing collection of trichs there... where was I when this post was made! I notice with interest the tree climber appears in this thread as a bridgesoid. The validus is supercool and looks like a plant I found a while back and have been calling tersheckii, I now wonder if they are the same or different. Interesting to get an idea where the plants have come from as some of these must have definately been planted in SA some time ago judging by their size now. Some of those large varieties are pretty interesting such as chiloensis and tscheckoides var larajensis. Any indication that these collectors were fertilising flowers and growing out seed? Nice work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_e_ Posted January 7, 2009 hows that doubled headed split/roseii twin! those pics are phenomenal. love ot see what my validus and rosee look like so i can compare. to mee it looks liek a lto of the older plants could do with maintenance, cutting away scaled/scared limps and cultivating the fresh tips and offshoots and trading the central/scarred material. please let me know if u intend on/can organise the following. i have seen plants of similiar size (doubtfully age) be trimmed back one fifth. (and actually improve gigour and asthetic appeal not to mention the cultivation potential!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted January 7, 2009 Will be making a trip back to see Robert very soon. Will be picking his brain again for more detailed info in regards to the importation and collection of trichos way back when. Hopefully be getting a few cuttings but am mainly interested in obtaining the T. macrogonus he has so i can have a properly IDed macro in my collection finally and to get some more eye candy for you all to enjoy . Watch this space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dundee Posted March 8, 2011 Heres a couple more pics of that amazing cactus garden 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
