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Has anyone here had any experiences with the stone Moldavite? The reason I ask is because there are two variations, One being plain Moldavite and the other, more expensive version being called Besednice Moldavite.

I have heard of some amazing stories asociated with this 15 million year old crystal that fell from the sky and it has also been referred to as being linked to both The Holy Grail & The Philosophers Stone.

I have been told mixed things like "Besednice Moldavite is the one to get" and others have told me to find the "angel chime" while others tell me that "Moldavite is Moldavite", and its up to the crystal whether or not it accepts it owner.

Anyone with any experience on this amazing gem, Please feel free to share!!Besed153AA.jpg

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I've got a few small pieces, they cost around 30 bucks each back at the time.

When I was into transcendental meditation I used them a lot, for me they seemed to help me let go. I've had some wild dreams when I've put them in my pillow too.

They are both small pieces but they have a powerful vibe about them. Just touching one can give me goosebumps, the other one doesn't do it.

Of course there is no way to prove any of the esoteric attributes, who knows maybe it's all just the power of suggestion ?

They are a cool thing to have none the less given how rare they are.

I've heard that the Chinese have been selling a lot fake pieces on the web, apparently they make them out of glass

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Yeah I find it thins the line between 3D reality and everything else, similar in part to h b w r (YMMV). I have a moldavite essence (basically just some specific essential oils with a piece of moldavite to create the vibration. It smells nice and I rub a small spiral onto my third eye; You know how when you put a pair of shoes on, you don't notice them once they're on? When I rub it into my third eye, I'll feel it constantly for hours. They make moldavite essence incense sticks which smell amazing. In fact I'm going to burn one now :)

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Of course there is no way to prove any of the esoteric attributes

 

Actually, it would be pretty simple to set up a double-blind experiment to test your claim that one gives you goosebumps when you touch it and the other doesn't. More realistically, it should be performed with a large sample of subjects, a real moldavite stone, and a placebo stone fashioned out of glass. Of course, research like this would cost, and I don't think you'd find any scientific or academic institutions willing to fund such a project, so the funding would have to come, most likely, from people who believe there is something to it and want to see it proven.

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All I know is, this lazy bitch held a few supposedly "power" stones in my hands (before I knew what the "metaphysical properties" were) and actually cleaned the house every day that week; that was the start of a beautiful (and somewhat costly :( ) friendship lol. I don't feel something from all stones, only a few, and generally just the more "powerful" ones. I can't get enough of stones and crystals etc; they're just another manifestation of a particular energy pattern, but beautiful to boot. I've seen too many coincidences with them too. But again YMMV and I'd imagine a belief in more than what's tangible/explainable by science would help, whether it's psychosomatic or not :)

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Actually, it would be pretty simple to set up a double-blind experiment to test your claim that one gives you goosebumps when you touch it and the other doesn't. More realistically, it should be performed with a large sample of subjects, a real moldavite stone, and a placebo stone fashioned out of glass. Of course, research like this would cost, and I don't think you'd find any scientific or academic institutions willing to fund such a project, so the funding would have to come, most likely, from people who believe there is something to it and want to see it proven.

 

I have set up some small scale double blind experiments, where I tried to identify particular stones with various degrees of success. Nothing on a scale large enough to get any meaningful data from though.

I believe a lot of metaphysical phenomena don't lend themselves well to scientific scrutiny, to me that sort of thing is largely intangible and intermittent. It's a bit like fault finding an intermittent gremlin in an electronic circuit, if you can't observe the phenomena when it's in its active phase to all logic it is non-existent, but at the same time you know it exists. ???

Many people with a highly tuned sense of intuition can perceive things with no verifiable reason as to why they can and other times that intuition is just not there. So from my perspective scientific proof of something that has a transient nature will tend to give misleading results and the harder you try the less reliable the outcome becomes.

A scientist would most likely classify my statement as a cop out, or an excuse for not being able to quantify something with their scientific method, but (I feel) sometimes things are not black and white and can defy logical explanation.

Call it spirits, the aether, God, angels whatever you prefer, I believe there is more to this earthly realm than can quantified by rigid scientific dogma as it exists in its current form.

I can see this heading into a particle/wave duality discussion :unsure:

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I believe a lot of metaphysical phenomena don't lend themselves well to scientific scrutiny, to me that sort of thing is largely intangible and intermittent. It's a bit like fault finding an intermittent gremlin in an electronic circuit, if you can't observe the phenomena when it's in its active phase to all logic it is non-existent, but at the same time you know it exists. ???

 

If the phenomena are intangible, then you must first define intangible. If you mean it involves changes in psychology like mood changes, then science can quite comfortably cope with effects of this type, and they can be observed in an experiment. If the effects are so intangible that they are unobservable, then by all means they may exist, but one must question what use they are if they do not produce any observable effect. I mean, if your mood is enhanced and you become happier or more productive in your life, then that is a positive thing that would also be observable in an experiment. I cannot think of anything that would be a desirable result of possessing these stones, that a scientific experiment cannot evaluate. If the effect of a particular product, device or material is so intangible that it can't be measured, then I'm not sure it's much use to me.

You're right that if something is intermittent then its existence is harder to prove, but you just need to perform the experiment on a larger scale, using a greater number of trials. If the effect of a particular product, device or material is so intermittent that many repeated trials will not reveal its existence, then I'm not sure it's much use to me.

A scientist would most likely classify my statement as a cop out

 

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To define intangible in the context of moldavite & metaphysical phenomena. Most times when I touch my "favorite" moldavite all that happens is that is gives me a mild buzz and many times I get goose bumps, but very very rarely I will experience a total shift of consciousness somewhat akin to a feeling I've experienced with an OOBE or near death experience where my consciousness is projected somewhere else and the progression of time is altered, In a near death experience time slows down enough to review your whole life in intricate detail in a few seconds - at least for me it did. It's only ever happened with the one piece I speak of and I've never heard of it happening to anyone else with the stone in question.

There have been no common factors discernible, time of day, atmospheric conditions, my mood beforehand etc other than contact with the said stone. This is extremely rare and has only happened 3 times in the 8 years that I've owned the stone.

Every time I have tried to replicate the effect it just does not happen so it certainly is intermittent and hard to define, but there is only one me and only stone that produces that effect so it would be difficult to perform any tests on a larger scale.

Maybe even just the Observer effect is enough to prevent the phenomena from occurring in the first place ?

Now we are getting into the realms of the Quantum mind-body problem & the consciousness causes collapse debate. :huh:

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old thread, but does anyone know of a reputable Australian dealer or shop, moldavite is easily faked I'm told

gotta get me one of these freaky asteroids

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I bought a piece from perceptio I think its called in nimbin... I think it's a legit piece. Would also recommend cooloola rocks and minerals in gympie. Definitely has an energy to it ...no OBE or anything yet though.

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I've got a piece that I believe is fake, but my original piece which is what I'd had experiences from I definitely believe is real. I wouldn't ever buy moldavite that came in a bag. Unfortunately I can't remember where I got it... your best bet is to go to a lapidary fair or something like mind spirit body festival, trust your intuition about a particular vendor, and if you can try and hold a piece and see if it talks to you. A piece may be real but not right for you, and some vendors are funny about people putting their vibes into stones. I think a genuine seeker and genuine vendor will connect and the right purchase will be made when it's the right time :) If you get it from a lapidarist(?) as opposed to a metaphysical stone collector, the piece may be real but may feel a bit dull. I usually find this to be the case. YMMV...

Just yesterday morning after reading this thread I used some of my moldavite essence on my third eye, with a piece of ulexite over it, holding a tiny piece of phenacite in each hand, and listening to guided astral projection meditation. With a piece of pyrite down near my base chakra for grounding. No bodily vibration but my mind was a LOT clearer than normal until I dropped off past sleep. It's been a while since I've really used my crystals for intention.

Happy hunting! Try ordering the essence from crystalsrocksandgems.com put some on your third eye and ask to be shown during meditation or sleep :) I used to order from this site but haven't in a while. They're a bit expensive sometimes but I've had genuine feelings from most of the powerful ones I bought from them, including the moldavite pendulum.

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^thanks fancypants, i'll continue the hunt

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old thread, but does anyone know of a reputable Australian dealer or shop, moldavite is easily faked I'm told

gotta get me one of these freaky asteroids

Even older thread now....

-'Dazlyn Gems' In Melbourne is brilliant.

http://www.dazlyngems.com.au

Darren is a very knowledgeable gemologist :)

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