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so where to get seed if not from khatman?

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I dont think they send to Oz, Pat Uri. Or do they?

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Wanting Khat seed from aus, if anyone can help?

Arsea

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Everyone is loving them lately!

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Any cacti over there KhatManDo? :P

 

Yes can get you lophophora and trichocereus if you want.

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Yes can get you lophophora and trichocereus if you want.

 

I was only asking because I gather that they would grow differently over there and possibly look different :)

Its a shame you aren't in oz sounds like a generous member.

RF

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My deepest respect to you - Mr Khatman! Thank you so much - I assure your gift has been very well developed by us who will be eternally grateful! Consider yourself an Abraham, my Sir!, for you are 'father' of a red stemmed nation over here!

Please forgive us, no offense is meant - we are very protective of Australia's quarantine laws. We really love our country and couldn't stand the thought of any more diseases being brought in regardless of any personal gain to ourselves or to enjoy your hospitality!

Our authorities do a good job (Good on you boys and girls of the Forces who actually do risk your lives daily to uphold laws under politician whims - damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh!) but if some immoral person did get some material sent over that tipped the fragile balance of our sacred land our authorities would just give them a $200 fine! To us that would be an incredible evil crime - unthinkable! - deserving of great anger! For someone who knows better to do it for a little gain! Their life short, their suffering long - along with all other of us children of the Earth.

I think it was in this spirit of defense for our country, its bio-security, that evoked such strong feelings of passion - certainly not disrespect.

You, we admire as someone who has dug us a well in the middle of a great desert!

Now I meet the man himself - my population was SABed - Praise Mr.T! My personal Hero! - others were(&amp); 1 became 10 became 100 etc. - it's biomass progressing faster than Australian law. They look like lilly pilly and the traps have never noticed them. I've been raided on rumour - never charged - so often now they have a pretty constable liaison officer just to deal with me.

(I read her palm, give prophesies, get very nice hugs and offer them all cigars - lot of cops trying to give up - poor things)

Shamefully I've never let mine flower! No shoot lasts 3 weeks from the predations of the clan! Theyre years old, knee high, trail metres along, layering as they go, a sea of tips and the ends of their woody frames look like a blind cobbler's thumb from picking off the tips. Visitors have to announce a month before they arrive so I leave them some.

Now you tell me! Greasy Pete threw out a stack of seeds....only cows eat his...but sun in virgo time...isn't it...old paddy see what he can do....

Bugger of an alkaloid too. Most alkaloids are terminal products of catabolic reactions deposited in the leaves. It is not. It a precursory alkaloid of higher energy state kept enzyme stabilized in the phloem. Once those ATP powers off catabolism isomerizes it to norpsuedo...fed (or do we avoid that term here?) it can't be cured in. (I once did loads of 10 day old as an "ultrasonic" "slushy" and felt like I'd eaten two boxes of sudies - total dysphoria!)

But my pleasure again Mr Khatmando - I'd like to send you a "plant tissue culture" kit designed by Uni of Eng. Tissue cultures avoid some issues.

Sozz - i know freshgat.com can't do biz with Aus - but drool over the varieties! Plus I've put sterling in their accounts for CDs and teeshirts - I love them for Christmas gifts to Customs! Do they deliver to Bali?

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so where to get seed if not from khatman?

 

Wanting Khat seed from aus, if anyone can help?

Arsea

 

Planthelper was selling some recently. Try PMing him to see if he has any left.

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theres some on offer on the free trade thread right now!

"Posted Today, 11:10 AM

OK I will take that....yoink.......

WWWWWWWW- QLD Arrowroot cutting, C. Edulis seed and some wild Daga herb...wwwwwwwwwwwwww.."

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PM me.. I have....

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"Blow credibility before cover! I haven't had a real sense of ego since Madchester!

Whatever that means! Eh, folk! Giddya everyone! Old pharmer Pat Uri come to share a pipe with you all - if you got time, I suppose.

Now before any more of you nice people text me with another:-

4UReal?"Ol'PAT" Y'no 'kh4t's busted - bod? Toast?---OFO!!++!TEXT - Don't use the internet until we get there! Motherfucker!Nigga!! DO NOT USE INTERNET, PHONE<NADIA! COPY_K4T ABORT! COPY!REPEAT OPERATION K4T ABORT!

You know it's illegal don't you, Pat Uri?

Or you live in mountain cave, remotest QLD, a'snuffin' & a'dooffin'-and-a'smokin'&a'didgin' many last years!

Well, well kind people, old Pat's answer is yes and no - but maybe not that order.

Whilst setting up a few highway "Honesty boxes" of cuttings for tourists, the constabulatory asked if I'd seen any sus characters new to the district. (Apparently 'dope fiends" use our area!) Over cigars - he had heard about "it". yes all that ATT I've donated to gardens, old age homes, medial strips, etc. over the decades "could" just "could"- well...what can I say? ... There goes my idea of Pat Uri's "Driver Reviver" scheme of it growing within arms reach of every tired, sleepy car-driver on the road! Hurray!

(Old Pat Uri reckons at 2am ~100km/hr cruising to Gold Earing "Radar Love" and 2t >305ci prring in the cool - it is the people who AREN'T on drugs you gotta watch!)

I feel like sending Julia a big bunch of "roses" through unknowing local florists. Then after public media recording of the event let her know,

"Those weren't rose stems and leaves attached to those flowers the Australian people saw you in possession of, PM, it were great 'qads' of......." and give her 4 hours to repeal the law, or fall victim of it! Ha! ha!

(The idea of locking her in my bedroom with only khat and water to consume for however many days it took her to personally realize it is so weak and harmless, laws against it only distilnguish the line between people who know, and those who make up the law, was just my fantasy more than instructive)

Moral Dilemana:- Do I tell beer sucking, gamblin&prozzy addicted (- all legal vices - immoral, but legal-) Greazy Pete - next door his weeds has him a lucrative black market opportunity for dodgy farmers, thanks to Govt. Prohibition - think I might just keep my dang fool mouth shut! - right readers? See ya - sept - for more japes and laughs aplenty!

Do ask your grannies if they've heard of Arabian Tea Tree. (And tell them you know a fine country gent uses khat as viagra, huge didgeredoo, hung like an Aussie parliment too!)

And - you don't "see much of that around these days" right? green-teethed friends?

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an old thread but ..... The main purpose of AQIS [ quarantine / inspection ] is not primarily to enforce the drug laws , but to protect Australia from the threat of imported diseases and weeds . There could be anything hiding in smuggled seeds being thoughtlessly sent around the world .

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http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/shop/catha_edulis_cp_65.php

SAB sells cuttings, which are probably more reliable than seed, but they are out ov stock at the moment...maybe come Spring?

Also "owls to Athens"??? is that like "coals to Newcastle"? Never heard that expression before.

just looked it up...interesting...

A calque of the Ancient Greek proverb γλαῦκ’ εἰς Ἀθήνας (glauk’ eis Athēnās). The owl, which roosted in the rafters of the old Parthenon (the one burnt by Xerxes I), was the symbol of the city of Athens, and was sacred to its patron goddess, Athena. It was featured on Athens’ silver coins, and as Athens both mined its own silver and minted its own coins, bringing owls (either the real birds, or the coins) to Athens would be pointless.

learn something everyday:)

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http://www.shaman-au...dulis_cp_65.php

SAB sells cuttings, which are probably more reliable than seed, but they are out ov stock at the moment...maybe come Spring?

Also "owls to Athens"??? is that like "coals to Newcastle"? Never heard that expression before.

just looked it up...interesting...

learn something everyday:)

 

you are spot on, nabrax, nice research on the expression, i used.

regading catha plants and catha seeds, i'm pretty much out of business, because of the law.

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hey this thread has some serious info on catha and awesome photos! Too bad I didnt catch it on time

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Yes some realy excellent stuff here shame about the other jabber.

Just read KhatManDo's excellent article in the new Dragibus, persony I would have liked to have seen a little more on technechalities because its clear he knows the ins & outs, the stuff on preping the land was gold but it was'nt that sort of piece but a realy good read on how he fell into the business & all that entails. Some realy good pics too.

Thanks alot KhatManDo & very sad to hear you were basicaly forced out by ridiculous unenforceable laws.

In case you have'nt seen it well worth the $ http://www.dragibusmag.com/

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Hi There.

Thanks for the everybody for the support, have still got an incredible amount of seed left and if you pay for the postage and packaging, I will send batches of 5000 seed out free to any serious growers out there, pm for further info.

All the best.

** Successfuly sent seed to 5 people in australia and new zealand, with no customs interference, even though one person asked that it be called a diferent seed it to went through. Long Live the system

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Nice seeds khatmando! Have you any more fresh seeds this year?

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