Variegated peruvianoid?

[paradox]

Hey folks, so i got this peruvianoid/cuzcoid thingamajig from Lester Myers many years ago. when it is mature it has a quite distinct pale greenish yellowish color to it.. is not really apparent in these pics though. ever since i got it 7 or 8 years ago, it every so often comes out with these very variegated looking blotches.. i always assumed it was a mild variegate.. thought i would check with everyone here & see what you all reckon..

[Señor Corrochio]

Hey folks, so i got this peruvianoid/cuzcoid thingamajig from Lester Myers many years ago. when it is mature it has a quite distinct pale greenish yellowish color to it.. is not really apparent in these pics though. ever since i got it 7 or 8 years ago, it every so often comes out with these very variegated looking blotches.. i always assumed it was a mild variegate.. thought i would check with everyone here & see what you all reckon..

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Did you put up a cutting of this on eBay about 3 years ago by any chance? I figured it must be same as yours as I also got a bridgesii "Lester" from the same seller which looks like originated from you (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26413&hl). Many thanks by the way if it was you, love all those plants.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Señor Jefferson

[zelly]

I think paradox/senor jefferson plant is genetically variegated (slightly) and coolname's tbm could be showing a variegated tendency, but successive pups could be the determining factor

the virus caused variegation that I've observed is usually on the side of the plant with maximum sun exposure and looks much different than that shown in the peruvianus and tbm pics posted above

Senor's look like a true variegation... (puzzled)

still puzzled?

[hostilis]

It doesn't look variegated to me. Nutrient deficiency?

[paradox]

nah, don't think so, this plant has done this consistently.. i wasn't too sure it's variegated either but it regularly does this, even when nutritionally fine.. could it be some other kind of weird condition?

[paradox]

or bacterial infection or something perhaps?

[hostilis]

I'm not sure what it is. Could be bacterial or fungal maybe. Doesn't seem like typical coloration or patterning of a variegate to me though.

[Evil Genius]

Probably rather a slight Nutrient Defiency. Don´t think that this is Viral or Bacterial. Checked for Spidermites? They sometimes suck out the Green too, though this doesn´t look like Spidermites.

[paradox]

Thanks EG. definitely not spider mites.. it seems this plant perhaps has some tendancy to react strongly to slight nutrient deficiency like this.. cause this is the only one that does this regularly & i have plants a lot more neglected than this one.. interesting.

thanks for the input fellas

[mutant]

Not nutricion deficiency, I say viral.. I also got it in some clones

[paradox]

ah cool! yeah that would have been me. Thanks for sharing the pics! love seein the babies out in the big wide world thats awesome to see it's doing the variegate/viral thingamabob for you too.. interesting

[sagiXsagi]

Senor's look like a true variegation... (puzzled)

[paradox]

i know man.. so if a plant shows a consistent lack of chlorophyll in it's parts exactly like a genetic variegate.. even if perhaps it isn't genetic but viral, can it still be called a variegate?

if this is viral, i wonder what the best way to spread the virus would be.. i've had this plant for over a decade now, in close proximity to other plants constantly & it's never spread..

i want to know if it is contagious to really rule out the possibility of it being genetic..

Edited January 2, 2016 by paradox

[coolname]

I'm not sure if this is helpful information or not, but I have a similar thing going on with a tbm branch but it looks like it has been caused from some sort of damage with this plant

[paradox]

yeah thats interesting. i'd like to see if that continues or not.. makes sense if theres been some kind of cellular damage but if it continues on other parts of the plant as it grows will be interesting

[Señor Corrochio]

It can't be viral, as you can see from my pic the variegated bits successively came from the apical bud.