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How to recognize a huanucoensis

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This thing has several forms that all were started from seeds Harry Johnson Sr brought back to the US in the 1950s. It seems to be all over the planet now.

It can be insanely variable even within one form depending on where it gets grown.

It gets easily as fat (and often fatter) as any peruvianus. It can have no spines or long spines but usually not many per areole.

It looks sort of like a sparsely spined macrogonus and sort of like a bridgesii on steroids.

I'll get a bunch more images posted but want to focus on where this all started for me before returnign to this.

Here is one for starters. Please be patient with me for more images as they will come.

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I think thats okey for now, I have made my point

this thread is shit

not only because I dont own huanu

and I think we are not allowed to talk about god in the cacti identification section. I just used this as an example to point out the shy and shout-outs

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Heres my suspected T. Huanucoensis apparently..

bought it from Lowes as a T. Pachanoi from Altmans.

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Just getting ready to put these outside...(and stressing them a little under the Arc tube)

4 month old SS02-x-Huanucoensis from SS

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And...4 month old Huanucoensis-x-SerraBlue

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i have seedlings that are about 6 weeks old or more.. but they dont look anywhere near this far along... do they exponentially grow at some point? i spray them with a water bottle every day sometimes twice a day keeping them moist. they dont get direct sunlight, just indirect via the porch location. Is this enough light?

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They do a lot of growin once they reach the point of growing spines. At around the 3 month mark sometimes younger mine go outside in shade/indirect dappled light and actually grow faster outside with less intense and less hours of light.

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Is huancoensis an actual species or just a type locality? I have been seeing the name pop up more and more often but the pics to me look like a normal pach.

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Iam curious as to weather or not the plant in the front of the Berkely Botanial garden is a correctly labeled huanocoensis or if its simply a Pachanoi because I've got a plant with similar appearance that I've been calling a pachanoi.

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Iam curious as to weather or not the plant in the front of the Berkely Botanial garden is a correctly labeled huanocoensis or if its simply a Pachanoi because I've got a plant with similar appearance that I've been calling a pachanoi.

Edited by MrDoRight, 16 June 2014 - 05:25 PM.

how do we know you're not a bot if you don't know the difference between weather & whether?

well anyway, I was at the HBG last weekend and saw two massive stands of plants, both labeled huanucoensis

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well needless to say, both were different looking in appearance, had completely different looking flower buds, spines, etc. The clumps were maybe 30' apart.

thank gawd for tele-zoom lenses

massive old growth on both. one is def a huan, the other sure looks like a fat pach, a spineless one at that

i'll get around to putting up pics of them & others in another thread

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soon as i saw huanucoensis seeds and pics with them i was in love :wub: , only sowed 2-3 months ago : ]

excited *

the first thing my mind said was , what a beautiful scop-like look, but kinda with bigger "nostrils" x] on the pic I first saw

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how do we know you're not a bot if you don't know the difference between weather & whether?

well anyway, I was at the HBG last weekend and saw two massive stands of plants, both labeled huanucoensis

teaser pics

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well needless to say, both were different looking in appearance, had completely different looking flower buds, spines, etc. The clumps were maybe 30' apart.

thank gawd for tele-zoom lenses

massive old growth on both. one is def a huan, the other sure looks like a fat pach, a spineless one at that

i'll get around to putting up pics of them & others in another thread

Now I'm just wanting to see pictures of the plants.......

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Here is a picture of a cactus I received & it doesn't have the rib depth a PC would have & it has longer spines than the Ecuadorian short spined pachanoi. The older stock had a few areoles with spines aprox. 1 inch. From my point of view this plant closely resembles the supposed Huanocoensis from the Berkeley Botanical Garden

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yeah that's been a bit too long for a teaser , lol does he normally do this ?

lol , suspense is killen meh!

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He had posted pictures on another thread. Don't remember which one.

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Huanucoensis I recently got from someone who said it was from the BBG. I'm guessing its the front bed specimen?

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gratz dude

bet she's a beauty !

any piccies :drool2: ?

Thanks! Is the picture I uploaded not showing up for you? Here are a couple more:

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it's too bad that the front huanucoensis no longer exists at the BBG. The guy I got this plant from had several 10 foot tall specimens growing in his yard, so he probably got a cutting from the mother plant a couple decades ago. I tried comparing this plant to both BBG huanucoensis specimens that Trout has posted photos of, but it doesn't match either. I'm just guessing its the one from the front of the garden because of the shorter spines..

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sorry and no it wasn't till i swapped browser lol :innocent_n: but thank you

i wonder if one could be donated back to bbg?

I'd like to think they are along the lines of the more the merrier but i could just be confusing it with my own vibe lol

- does the little plant need nitrogen?

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Yeah the little plant was a cutting he added some time after the larger plant had established itself in the pot.. i'm guessing it doesn't have a very healthy root system. I'll probably dig it out and give it its own pot, and if it looks healthy enough at the end of the season offer it for trade.

I'd like to think the BBG would welcome the plant back, but it doesn't seem like theyre very invested in maintaining their tricho garden. I guess theyre trying to give the plants a "natural" habitat look by never feeding them / letting them rot away. It doesn't help that people seem to actively pilfer from their plants.

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dang

i guess its a damned good job there's folk out there keeping it in the hobby/proffession/hort trade

maybe its all about creating a personal botanical garden for now ,

enjoy and rawrz! .... huanucoenostilensis ,mmm

ive only got a few seedlings of huanu i think so a wait for me to see the nostreoles other than the delightful porn so lavishly layed out in threads like these :wub:

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