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i was wondering what other salvia's were from southern mexico? & if any had similer traits to divinorum ? (produce few seeds, that seldom germinate, reduced pollen fertility & no active pollen tube ?)

or is S divinorum the only species that is usually propagated by cuttings or layering ?

i ordered a superba, large form guaranitica & a pink coccinea to start my salvia collection & next will be another form of guaranitica (the one with tubers) can anyone suggest some others ?

semi arid area but i have a nice shaded area for the more delicate ones

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Check coccinea ... it grows as a weed.... Take a look at entheogen.com , it's got huge amount of info on psychoactive salvias

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if you take a look at edot, read sandalwood's post about how the fun of exploration can add to the effects when trying what you think is a newly discovered psychoactive.

s nemorosa and other salvia spp are mildly sedative and painkilling, but nothing noteworthy. the kind of intoxication you have to sit and focus on to notice. my initial trials with the plant seemed great. effects strong and euphoric. i dont know how to explain it really, my first trials with the plant were soooo positive, and now...well lets just say i feel real stupid. there isnt anything special going on with most salvia spp IMO.

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i suffer from chronic pain so if some of these salvias provide me with pain relief i believe there must be something useful there.......though i've got little else from it,certainly nothing like euphoria.........pain relief without being drugged appeals to me after too much time experiencing being drugged and still in pain......

am working with a new plant for pain relief and getting excellent results.....i dont get anything recreational from it but it seems from the salvias my experiences are a bit different to others,maybe due to the chronic pain etc.......but i'm reluctant to make something this useful public and have it hassled.........if you are a known long term member here,with chronic pain,i'll pass the info on by pm........

t s t .

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the kind of intoxication you have to sit and focus on to notice.

Wow, IMO you don't have to really take notice of anything when you have smoked some S.coccinea leaf ... You are downright sedated in no time, you can't think much anyway to focus on, you're that sedated..... but yeah, notthing interesting... don't know anything about painkilling

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do you find the coccinea leaf very visual?thats what its usually noted for........not visions but being very visual maybe?

t s t .

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No, not at all... but then again, I am not a sucker for visuals.... Swim didn't have many visuals [or didn't really notice or didn't get interested] even with acid

The words I can use for smoked coccinea effects are sedation, emotional numbing, deep sleep, waking up still heavy

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i found s splendens put me in a state with no emotional involvement and seemed to do little else.picked a few flower heads last night,hope they have seeds in......

t s t .

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yeah, splendens too... but it's much hotter to smoke... expect coccinea to act the same or similar as splendens, but it burns much smother and it's more potent...

hey, whats your take on coleus... ? :)

i had opened a thread when I first got here, dunno if any of you remember...

and, oh, what was that thing about S.divinorum mixed with S.splendens or some other sedative sally?

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tried coleus years ago for light effects.......since i've tried the amaranths and am curious if they are similar in effect.......need to try coleus again ........

t s t .

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tried coleus years ago for light effects.......since i've tried the amaranths and am curious if they are similar in effect.......need to try coleus again ........

t s t .

I think with Coleus there may be an active or two in the Blumei varieties and these are generally the ones i have seen biossays reporting moderate effects however I also have suspion tha traditional uses need to be better studied I'm still yet to find any biossays or source seeds (so that i can do it myself )for (Solenostemon pumilus) Coleus pumilus which i think may be stronger of course this is all theory right now as Its a hard little fucker to track down but i'll be sure to post any results i find here on the forums

i seem to have found a lot more info looking under Solenostemon as oppose to Coleus

some good variety of salvia here anyone seeking to do further reasearch

http://www.salviaspecialist.com/

S. guaranitica i have seen a few old reports that indicated extracts may be viable but haven't really seen many recent posting or info on it

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Tst, sometimes, sometimes I wish you didn't make so brief posts assuming everyone has read up the whole forum, heh... I do value your opinion... So what kind of effects does Amaranthus have? Any linkies?

Neoshaman, you're right, Solenostemons is the current name of 'Coleus blumei'. I have some seeds to give away of people are interested. I will prefer to send them to whom convinces me he's serious and intelligent ... PM me.... I think I cannot send to australia though, right? So, since no intelligent americans exist , I might just keep them :P

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I was just making a little mix of Coccinea, Superba & Guaranitica (large form) for incense or smoke & thought id taste some fresh leaf

Now this may be a silly question but is there any reference on if any salviais toxic when ingested ?, Just wondering if anyone had eaten amounts of the other salvias or combination of the some listed in The Other Psychoactive Salvias by friendly list ?

:scratchhead:

i guess some of the species used in medicine may be somewhere to start looking ?

a guy named Aaron Jenks i belive has researched the medicinal side ill try Google some info later

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I think there were reports on S.nemerosa having some sort of cardiac toxicity (grain of salt territory perhaps?) - one of the US members might be able to elaborate. But I've not heard any adverse reports for any of those you mention.

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if you take a look at edot, read sandalwood's post about how the fun of exploration can add to the effects when trying what you think is a newly discovered psychoactive.

s nemorosa and other salvia spp are mildly sedative and painkilling, but nothing noteworthy. the kind of intoxication you have to sit and focus on to notice. my initial trials with the plant seemed great. effects strong and euphoric. i dont know how to explain it really, my first trials with the plant were soooo positive, and now...well lets just say i feel real stupid. there isnt anything special going on with most salvia spp IMO.

nothing special even with that red leaf salvia var daylight, or spathacea?

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it does indeed tst. the first time i smoked nemorosa i was feeling great. if it actually did that to people we would have a serious issue on our hands...at the time it felt as good as viccodin.

and while the two species you mentioned(var daylight and spathacea) were more potent than any other salvia species ive yet tried, the effects i still find unremarkable. at least from a recreational standpoint. there was one individual who got well over 50% relief from opium withdrawls using the var. daylight plant, only to have the junk sickness return when the leaves i mailed him ran out. and with tst's work with chronic pain it seems there may be some medicinally good things in there.

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Hi, please include me in your test.

I would love a sample :rolleyes:

Kind Regards,

SniffleCookie

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Your nine years late :lol:

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Hi SniffleCookie, and welcome to the forums. While this invitation was a number of years ago, there is a lot of great information that can be found on the topic of active legal salvia via the search engine. Feel free to post any enquiries, and people will be happy to help you. All the best, and enjoy your time at the Corroboree.

Regards,

Psylo :innocent_n:

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