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Seems to self pollinate, i dont know of any other cacti in the area and it gives hundreds of fruits each year..

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Actually I would say Cereus peruvianus but since that one was integrated into Cereus Hildmannianus, I´d say that.

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Thanks eg!

Im confused as there is another in my area with much smaller spines, doesnt self pollinate, atleast never sets fruit and is also called peruvianus..

Clearly only 1 is, no doubt the above..

I dont have photos from the local plant but i will see what i can drag off google..

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There are a couple different subspecies within the group they combined and this one is Cereus Hildmannianus too. But another subspecies. I guess this one is subspecies hildmannianus.

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Thats really weird, as i believe they are so different. Ill try get photos of the local plant.. whats i find weird is they look so different, and only this 1 with the spines sets fruit / self pollinates, and the other doesnt.. i havent tried crossing them but id imagine plant 2 would set fruit with plant 1 pollen..

Im curious as a member on the forum wants cereus seeds, not peru though..

Really didnt think they would both fall under peru / hildman...

Interesting.

Thanks eg

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when ya have a cereus peruvianus as well as a cereus hildmannianus in your garden, you can see the subtle differences.

peruvianus shows mature reddish fruits, hildmannianus shows mature orangish fruits (at least in my garden)

other differences appear in rib formation & growth.

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Thanks zelly, i think im understanding now..

Still trips me out,

I just walked past the cacti in my area that im chasing an id on and forgot to take a photo. It may be slightly different to the pics i got on google..

It definitely does not self pollinate though which is why i feel it must be different.

Anyway ill get some better photos and go from there.

Thanks for the help!

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I also have that short spined form in my area and I have called it hildmannianus. I dont think the differences are that subtle. The one I am talking about is virtually spineless...

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yea thats the one i think, virtually spineless, and it doesn't seem to self pollinate like this pictured one does so the differences are fairly major

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I have a cereus "peruvianus" that I've had for many years. Flowers each year but only sets fruit if I pollinate it, never on it's own. I have a fruit ripening now that I dabbed with T scopulicola pollen this year.

This one has long spines and I think it's quite attractive. Sometimes has semi monstrose looking growth and sometimes normal.

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I've got that one too zed!! so thats 3 separate plants, all with different characteristics, all being called peru/hilldmannianus... :scratchhead:

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and thats interesting, cereus peru x t. scop... I thought i read somewhere that cereus and trich won't x but then dream walker crossed them?

Interesting to see if the seed is viable and what it will grow to be

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