Geebus Posted September 24, 2014 Hi guys an SAB member has asked me to disperse a small amount of Acacia phlebophylla seeds into the community. I have 2 packs of 3 seeds to giveaway. It will work like this, the first 2 people to reply and PM me their address will get the seeds. Get in quick as these will be gone very quickly I'm sure ;) Thanks go to prioritise for providing the seed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manic Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Darn! lucky number three not so lucky Edited September 24, 2014 by manic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zed240 Posted September 24, 2014 Dammit! Why did I have to go to a meeting 45 mins ago?!?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geebus Posted September 24, 2014 Thanks guys, all gone! Will send them out ASAP Sorry manic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted September 24, 2014 These beauties go quick lol make sure recipients read all the phleb threads, and get as much knowledge as possible before you start growing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted September 24, 2014 I'm getting 90-100% with these seeds, hot water soak (repeat until seed swells to light brown) and then sow in a well drained mix. Mind you some take 6-12mths so make sure you keep the pots around, THEY WILL show up eventually. A few times I let the pots dry out for a week at a time then re watered and they showed up... Sorry I couldn't offer more, hopefully soon. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted September 24, 2014 I worked out an alternate method last year. as i was having too many grubs eat my seedlings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted September 24, 2014 Post away or link then!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) lol. im pretty sure i have posted elsewhere. my method was basically to do a warm water treatment after having sanded the coat a bit. once expanded to then cut away the seed coat plant it vermiculite in those little seed cups, i then mix some soil from around the base of acacias with water, mix a bit, let it sit for a while, then pour off the water over the seeds. this is to introduce the soil nodulating bacteria as early as possible. let the seeds germinate, with root, and cots developing. keep using water poured off from acacia soil then transplant to a pot full of soil, with a vermiculite cup in the middle, transplant the seedling into the vermiculite. you need do do this before secondary root hairs start forming to minimise damage. again water with acacia soil water. try to encourage nodulation as early as possible. i feel this is an important factor in their survival. as the next bit is the harder part. they may all get to the frist or second seed of immature leaves, but then you notice the weaker ones and stronger ones. i feel there is no point trying to treat them with kids gloves. if the plant is weak it wont survive in nature. I have had to use this method as the soil grubs seem to not like vermiculite. the grubs were munching through the seeds in the soil like crazy. also acacias have a lot of energy stored in their testa and cotyledons and will survive a bit before getting proper nutrition from soil. naturally they can germinate in sand and survive a while as the roots develop into the soil. Edited September 25, 2014 by obtuse 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theuserformallyknownasd00d Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Wow I'd hate to have those grubs! I like your watering idea. I always threw in some acacia soil, I should have mentioned that in my post too. I'd imagine your way would germinate a lot faster than my sit and wait approach too? I find it takes from 2-12mths, with the seed I have anyways. Thanks for posting the tek again too btw Edited September 25, 2014 by prioritise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted September 25, 2014 Yes, the other motivation was indeed the time factor. This allows for quick germination. As i was planning on travelling for a couple of months i needed to get them germinated and going before i left. the person i leave my plants with is notorious for not watering so i didnt want them as seeds in a pot drying out over summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burleyman Posted September 27, 2014 HAve you tried bubbline smoke through the water after nicking the cotyledon? that works pretty well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted September 27, 2014 You shouldnt need smoke treatment on the seeds. im sure it works fine, but these will readily germinate given the opportunity, a nicked seedcoat, some hot water and their away. the problem is, i feel anyway, is how long it takes for them to cast off their seed coat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burleyman Posted September 28, 2014 That is wht you give the cotyledon a little scarify here and there to make it easier to pop off?Along with the soak which would make it much more maluable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt1208 Posted October 9, 2014 got seeds today, thanks appreciate it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites