Philocacti Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I bought this yesterday from a hobbyist and he told me he's not sure of its I'd, but he said it's probably Lophophora diffusa kikko. Any feedback? Edited April 13, 2015 by Philocacti 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted April 13, 2015 I got 2 diffusas and they're very roundish... dunno , seems too titty , for a non-grafted plant... grow it out and update ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 upside Posted April 13, 2015 Not sure man,, but here's a LW Kikko with the classic formation And a diffusa cv. with titties,, could be this variety? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted April 13, 2015 the last one seems to be the real deal /// made me think... tbc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 zelly Posted April 14, 2015 dunno , seems too titty , for a non-grafted plant... guys dont be fooled by wool tipped titties or appearances, i could post up a half dozen pics or more all different species, all with titties, from jourds, caes, koehresi, lw etc. Plants do change appearances based on growing conditions, age, and many other factors philo- the most important point to consider is what the hobbyist said, he wasnt sure of its ID. Anything beyond that is pure speculation according to cactus-art, their definition of kikko implies long, wide tubercles, but in the astrophytum forums there's other definitions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Philocacti Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks fellows Zelly so this isn't uncomm, cuz it's the first time I see this pattern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted April 14, 2015 no its not uncommon, especially in the form of upsize's 1st pic.. I have seen this in my specimens... that's how I did the areole graft after all, I cut a "tit" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 zelly Posted April 15, 2015 all pics taken at some other collectors private collection examples of woolly & not so woolly nipples same plant as pic 2 a few years later 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Philocacti Posted April 15, 2015 Zelly are these all diffusa? I've been reading on cactus-art about lophophora and it got me all confused. It stated that diffusa sometimes have pinkish flowers, which I though was a williamsii characteristc. So now my only give away of a williamsii is self-fertility. I remember reading on many websites that williamsii and diffusa do not cross-pollinate. Is this true?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 zelly Posted April 15, 2015 top william self fertile 2&3 difusa hasnt accepted pollen to date or so the grower says 4 caes self fertile 5 jourd (produces seeds by what pollen the grower hasnt said) 6 koehresi the grower has yet to pollinate this species the grower may have 3-4 species all flowering at the same time & I've watched them use the same paint brush amongst all the flowers some willaimsii are not self fertile, so theres that to factor in as well. generally speaking, when a collector has a largish collection, difusa's readily stand out from their sister plants & subtle clues are skin coloration, texture, and sometimes flower coloration. woolliness can be another factor another interesting facet is all the different flower sizes amongst the williamsii tribe....some very small & tight, others wide & splayed out, some more pink than others. the grower has invited me over when 100+ flowers are open all on the same day, its really quite awesome to see 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Philocacti Posted June 23, 2015 I got a few new diffusa about a months ago and I'll take pics and post as soon as I can. The one in the pic didn't flower yet, and all the rest I got are grafted but didn't flower either. They all have this light lime green skin color and their ribs are totally different than any williamsii I have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Philocacti Posted June 28, 2015 I must say, the one in the original post looks like L. diffusa var echtinata Check post #4 in this thread http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23607 Also here : http://www.kadasgarden.com/CLophophoradiffusa.html "Big Breast: Lophophora diffusa forma. Big Breast originated in Japan and has been refined in other countries, such as Taiwan. It is basically a L. diffusa that has been bred to have extremely large tubercles. Some have no hair, others are bred for very long hair." Anyway, I'm not trying to make it special as it is very special and unique to me. Here are my other diffusa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I bought this yesterday from a hobbyist and he told me he's not sure of its I'd, but he said it's probably Lophophora diffusa kikko.
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