mckennaisgod Posted May 1, 2011 looking for a friendly myco to help me out with some id's on these that i found out in a pine forest thankyou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dosileflynn Posted July 26, 2011 to the OP, keep in mind, subaeruginosa will never grow directly from fallen trees and decaying wood, as in tree logs and things. however the notorious Gallerina does. so instantly exclude those from your search (but it is also easy to recognise a galerina due to the BROWN STEM it has, a brown stem never suits a psilocybe mushroom). also, pine forrests can be more personally rewarding to hunt in, as they are generally more relaxed environments and are more scenic, however they generally do not foster the giant " mother patches " that woodchip beds do. generally pine forrests will yield small groups of subs spread out along the outer regions of the pine forrest where the area still receives a little sunlight and lots of rain. generally along the sides of trails going through pine forrests. keep in mind though the pine subs grow to be bigger and stronger, then their more stumpier and shorter woodchip counterparts. The biggest finds are to be found in woodchip beds, in parks and reserves in my experiences. even man made woodchip beds such as roundabouts, or even just naturally created woodchip beds out in the forrest. these patches genuinely are alot more fruitful, and can contain alot more subs in a far smaller area. i've found patches with literally a few hundred subs, over a woodchip bed the size of probably 3-5 metres squared. but when hunting in pine, i have found probably ~30-50 pristine specimens, spread out over a 10 metre stretch of pine needles next to an inroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 obtuse Posted July 26, 2011 to the OP, keep in mind, subaeruginosa will never grow directly from fallen trees and decaying wood, as in tree logs and things. however the notorious Gallerina does. so instantly exclude those from your search (but it is also easy to recognise a galerina due to the BROWN STEM it has, a brown stem never suits a psilocybe mushroom). I need to point out that I often find P. subaeruginosa growing directly on decaying branches (large and small), chunks of bark, bracken stems, and directly out of sawdust. It seems to be the case that Psilocybe mycelium only needs to be in contact with soil in order to for them to fruit, probably in order to gain the extra available nutrients that the wood itself does not supply. Where they are growing straight off of these substrates, these are quite often the better examples of P. subaeruginosa that i find. Fresh P. subaeruginosa will have brilliant white stems that discolour over time, sometimes going brownish. galerinas have light brown stems that discolour over time, and often an annulus which Psilocybe lack. Cheers, Obtuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Bush Turkey Posted July 26, 2011 They do grow out of fallenn logs and bits of wood. Ive seen them growing out of a pinecone and a honkey nut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dosileflynn Posted July 26, 2011 Ok, my bad, i meant more specifically large fallen tree trunks, as opposed to fallen tree matter (even sizeable tree matter). i've never personally encountered any growing directly from fallen trees. they have almost always been gallerina's, and as such, i have excluded fallen trees from my potential hunting habitats. thats just me though, maybe other peoples experience is different. I am also aware that some subaeruginosa stems can be stained brown when growing from grass or pine and have a brownish tinge to them around the lower half of the stem, but generally it is very clear that it is indeed a sub. its funny by comparison that sometimes galerina stems will be brown - with a whiteish tinge to them, and subs can sometimes be white/grey, with a brownish tinge to them. another key way of distinguishing the two mushrooms for me is the feel and texture of the mushroom. psilocybe subaeruginosa is a very sturdy and strong mushroom. where as the galerina is generally a smaller and flimsier mushroom that tends to fall apart alot more. i remember when i found my first subs, after doing alot of research and familiarising myself with the mushroom, i stumbled across many look-a-likes for a few days, and when i first encountered a sub, i knew it was a sub instantly. something said to me that yes this is indeed the right mushrooms, almost like an instinct. I then took photos of it to get it identified properly, and it was indeed a sub. from then on i just studied the mushroom and all of it's features and just learned by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mckennaisgod Posted November 2, 2011 thanks for the comments guys, been away from this for a while but back on track now! Out hunting and taking photos again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
looking for a friendly myco to help me out with some id's on these that i found out in a pine forest
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