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[Siggor]

i have seen some old posts about mondafinil, just wondering if anybody has come across and used this?

if so was it worth it? was considering it because of lengthy sleeps anywhere upto 16hrs a day and absolutely no motivation.

any advice would be greatly appreciated

[PhoenixSon]

yeah worth a try, i think it varies, i find it crap for working say a 16 hours shift but i find it good for the morning after to wake myself up and get going for a normal shift.

so people like it so people expect too much from it, but it sure is effective.

the price is going to be the thing that holds you back its not coverd so it costs you a arm and a leg to get it, easy to get scripted as no-one has heard of it, and because if you quote shift work sleep problems, that is one of the reason its prescribed, also the US airforce now use it as their go pill, or at least one of theirs due to it being non addictive, and not having the side effects euphoria (agitation of regular amphetamines) which would of lead to overzealous bombings?

anyhow, do you have a script?

if so order from O-seas as its well worth it, pricewise.

if you have any q's about it ask me,

i still have 8 or so tabs left, so they are not euphoric in anyway, i find i would now use them for hangovers and depression days without motivation,

[PhoenixSon]

have you used amphetamines before/ pm if you want.

also try l-tyrosine,

what drugs do you use, are you a benzo user, or use regular pain meds?

smoke pot?

do you work?

set an alarm so you get 8 hours sleep exercise and eat a big meal over sleeping may make you feel like shite, or maybe good salt with iodine in it,

thyroid issues?

may be worth it to get a check over at the doctors and get some bloods done and get a baseline check done on whats going on

could be another issue entirely and can be fixed so you dont need the pills.

lifestyle diet and social network, havea look at yourself and you can usually see the faults easily, use it to move ahead and grow have a change with chaos and get moving!

[TommyChesnutt]

damn spacemonk, you should try life coaching... seriously i'm like, analysing myself now, and this thread isn't even about me...

...sorry, continue...

[ThunderIdeal]

it sounds fairly bad spud, like you aren't getting proper sleep. have a talk with spacemonk and consider getting a sleep study or basically just ask a GP to look for the problem, because while stimulants are great for motivation, they basically make you even more tired in between usage and they have plenty of other side effects. it's better if you don't rely on them to be functional.

i second spacemonks advice. look at any pot habits or similar, immediately try l-tyrosine to see if there's a benefit, and see a GP. i would suggest some ruthless experimentation and self-diagnosis but you probably don't have the energy for it!

[Siggor]

yeah has been, but i think majority of it is self infliction over the past year, i have explained whats been going on with 2 doctors but rejected any idea of having tests done. time for a new gp

[Halif]

i still have 8 or so tabs left, so they are not euphoric in anyway, i find i would now use them for hangovers and depression days without motivation

was considering it because of lengthy sleeps anywhere upto 16hrs a day and absolutely no motivation.

Modafinil is my kryptonite. First time I had it I was at a friend's place, quite comfortably high on morphine and K. I should have listened to the voice in my head saying "If it ain't broke..... ", because there was no reason to take it other than curiosity.

WIthin 30 minutes or so, I went from 'comfortably numb' to being stone cold sober - or at least feeling that I was. It was like the fog lifted and the clear, harsh morning light came out and shone in my eyes. Suddenly I had total clarity - and that meant I was suddenly aware of all the things I'd been ignoring and repressing by constant substance use.

It was hellish. I realised with horrid clarity that I can't stand my subjective reality. I can't stand to be sober.

So, anyway, that was my dumb fault for taking stuff that wasn't needed and while I was already on two substances.

Second time I tried it, I was more prepared and was not high (I had just woken up, you see). I suffer from a total lack of motivation, so I wanted to take it with a relatively clear head and see if I could have a productive day. Again, I hated the experience - this time because I found that it gave me focus and clarity (as it is supposed to) and some energy, but it didn't give me a jot of motivation. So I spent hours wandering around and fidgeting and having an introspective nightmare.

Spudamore: my brother has a similar problem to you, and for him it is a useful tool. So perhaps it'd work well for you, having a genuine need.

For people who are used to, or sometimes rely on, stimulants which come along with a mood boost, this is not it. It is functional.

Just my subjective experience. My reaction may have been extreme because of my stim experience and tolerance. I'm not a big stim fan, but sometimes they help me to get things done or at least to get started. it's the positive mental shift that makes me get up and move. Not so much the energy or clarity.

[whoami]

oi this may sound silly but its something I've noticed affects me personally is the energy flow of your home. some areas are dead areas and do nothing but drain, drain, drain without you even noticing. areas you can get 'bogged down' in, like say sitting at the computer for hours on end, or not wanting to get out of bed. it could contribute to your problem maybe.

if the energy flows well, and there is clean, fresh energised stuff flowing in and ways for the old to flow out, it can really help things move a lot more fluently in life. I have found this anyway

[indigo264nm]

Was hoping it would provide a substitute for ADHD stim medication a few years back when at uni... figured since dex and modafinal were used to treat narcolepsy then hopefully it'd help.

Noticed marginal improvement, and some mild motivational stimulant like synergy with codeine, but got shocking headaches when attempting towards the upper edge of dose range and lower dose range didn't yield results continuing.

Wouldn't mind maybe having some there again... I take dex but when I have to server work during the late pms\early ams it makes it much harder for me to just finish up and crash, as when taking for day\late arvo hours it's normally worn off by late night, so a mild dose might help keep my brain working in the wee hours.

[Siggor]

oi this may sound silly but its something I've noticed affects me personally is the energy flow of your home. some areas are dead areas and do nothing but drain, drain, drain without you even noticing. areas you can get 'bogged down' in, like say sitting at the computer for hours on end, or not wanting to get out of bed. it could contribute to your problem maybe.

if the energy flows well, and there is clean, fresh energised stuff flowing in and ways for the old to flow out, it can really help things move a lot more fluently in life. I have found this anyway

yeah cheers to all that contributed i had moved from countryside to sub trop rainforest, where green(as in colour) and nature thrived now back to my childhood place in a concrete jungle.

[whoami]

yeah cheers to all that contributed i had moved from countryside to sub trop rainforest, where green(as in colour) and nature thrived now back to my childhood place in a concrete jungle.

maybe some good hiphop with potent lyricism will bring the magic back xD

[Pablo]

My experience with modafinil is somewhat similar to what Halif experienced, agitation, negative introspective thoughts and anxiety as well as nausea. Used it to try and stay awake on nightshift and didn't even help much, still felt just as tired but unable to sleep. In my experience caffeine works better and has less side effects and that's saying something, anything more than a low dose of caffeine makes me feel horrible. I think modafinil is way overhyped and no improvement over caffeine.

[ThunderIdeal]

Just my subjective experience. My reaction may have been extreme because of my stim experience and tolerance. I'm not a big stim fan, but sometimes they help me to get things done or at least to get started. it's the positive mental shift that makes me get up and move. Not so much the energy or clarity.

this is an important point and a huge subject if somebody wants to get into it. it probably explains why opiates can also cause 'housecleaning mania' and it's why regular amph isn't as useful as the other one.

there's a few things which need to line up to have a productive day, and as soon as you start to feel tired, or your eyes won't work, or you can't co-ordinate your fingers, it all starts to slow down. a clear set of goals is pretty important, but then having a list of things to do can be very oppressive (i can't feel happy until this list is completed).

[Zen Peddler]

So many talk about modafinil as this amazing all purpose drug that will improve all aspects of your life.

Ive tried it and to be honest I found it weird.

I felt mildly energised, but kind of relaxed at the same time. My mind was annoyingly focused to the point where if someone talked to me or did anything to effect me it really annoyed me bcause it distracted me from what i wanted to focus on. If i was locked in a room and asked to write a thesis it would have been perfect. But i was at work in meetings...

It started to stop working and I stupidly drank 2 coffees and then i was buzzing like a mofo.

Agitated yet tired. And my vision went all weird. no sleep until 5am (took 200mgs at 11am)

Last thing was the next day I felt like id done a kilo of coke or acid or something - fuzzy, hungover and emotionally fragile (which is unusual for me). I had to call in sick.

Ive heard stories of people going into frank psychosis on it so its a weird med. Most tolerate it ok though.

But for me I tolerate normal stims way better than this one.

[DiscoStu]

so where do i get modafinil from?

do i have to import it?

[ThunderIdeal]

Coffee and armoda don't mix well. They're too similar. Too much of either or just enough of both is bad territory and it won't end soon enough.

It simply doesn't do what dopamine enhancers do for your mood and mental state, but its far from useless.

Like any stim, tolerance sets in fast.

[Slocombe]

Disco, there are Australian vendors but they don't stay around long (because modafinil and the other 'afinils are prescription medicines in Australia).

There's a website I know of that claims to ship armodafinil from within aussie. I've never used them but I can PM you the link if you're interested.

Edited October 12, 2014 by GHBeer

[theuserformallyknownasd00d]

^^ They are currently out of stock but accepting paid orders upfront for "back orders". I'll let you know how legit it is if my order shows

[theuserformallyknownasd00d]

Coffee and armoda don't mix well

I'm finding this now, but when I first started them it was awesome together. Now, after maybe 6mths off and on usage it just sends me into crazed overdrive with an awkward stupid grin in my face during social interactions. Still has it's time and place tho