Cycad Nursery - SCAM

[watertrade]

Hi Everyone,

Regretable as it is, I have updated this thread to reflect and inform everyone of what happened recently with an online scam I fell for. Something I feel pretty stupid about in hindsight. But in my moment of weakness (had excess funds) I transferred funds to a stranger on the internet based only on his word. I have to make a point that the only information I have I know is 'real' is that there were accounts and emails setup with these people's names. And in the case of bank accounts either fake people or fake CBA bank accounts. I side with the bank on this one! The names below may not be the same people you know.

So keep in mind there and many people with the same name.

This is how it played out

'Cycad Nursery' joined the Shaman Australis Botanicals facebook page advertising they had some rare and exotic plants available which I have never had access to in Australia.

I contact them, chat for a while about their products ( with a guy called Ben Ganley at [email protected] - living in QLD.

I decide to transfer money into an Australian bank account. ( Dean Leto ) of yeppoon QLD, currently living in Rockhampton I believe.

I continue the conversation with Ben Ganley and apparently the money has not arrived with the bank recipient.

I call the bank who confirms the transaction was successful. I contacted A Dean Leto from yepoon who confirms he has been taking money and transferring it to Ben Ganley or a guy called Danni Guy

Basically I keep speaking with both Ben and Dean and after a few days it becomes clear I'm never getting my money back or anything in return for it. I would still be happy to be proven wrong on this and would give full apologies for my haste to call a SCAM. ;)

This all happened In the timeframe of the last two weeks, in the timescale of SCAMs this is ancient history but I thought I would bring it up just in case people are in a similar position with another scam ( google 'Ben Ganley scam' it seems to be a common name for scammers )

I'm not the only member here who was silly enough to fall for this pretty basic scam.

And that's it

Dean Leto of Rockhampton

Ben Ganley of Qld

And

Danni Guy

My original post said.

Hi Everyone,

I am resolving a purchase with Cycad Nursery ( as advertised on Facebook via SAB page). Is anyone else doing the same?

Lets chat via PM

Edited October 27, 2014 by watertrade

[watertrade]

bump for old times sake,

This will soon be moved to bitches and gripes forum.

27/10/14

wT

[theuserformallyknownasd00d]

Hi wt sucks to here man. Was there anything to bank could do? I recently fell foul of a similar scam from QLD... Is there anything you could do lol?

[watertrade]

The bank was very helpful, they ran 'a trace and recall ' which basically sends a letter to the recipient and asks for their approval to reverse the transaction.

As I approved the transaction and made an error either of judgment or typo, (in this case judgement) and the amount is under $100,000 the recipient is not obliged by law to give it back or even acknowledge the money is there.

If I wanted to proceed any further I would need to make a small legal claim for the money. The amount ( and principle!) was significant enough to piss me off but not take it to court.

[waterboy 2.0]

This may save others some grief....thanks for putting this up WT.

[El Presidente Hillbillios]

thank for the bump, i hadnt seen this thread till now

[theuserformallyknownasd00d]

Cheers again wt

[in_spirit]

The bank was very helpful, they ran 'a trace and recall ' which basically sends a letter to the recipient and asks for their approval to reverse the transaction.

As I approved the transaction and made an error either of judgment or typo, (in this case judgement) and the amount is under $100,000 the recipient is not obliged by law to give it back or even acknowledge the money is there.

If I wanted to proceed any further I would need to make a small legal claim for the money. The amount ( and principle!) was significant enough to piss me off but not take it to court.

Small claims doesn't mean a court case, necessarily, you just go to the court house, in NSW, the sherrifs office is usually in the court house, you tell the staff/ sherrif what you are after and fill a form, to make ur claim, pay a small fee, or a slightly larger fee, depending whether you intend to serve the claim urself or have the sherrif serve it. Once served they have a (21 days from memory) to either deny which means court or to pay and if they don't the sherrif office will move on their property until they have sold enough to pay the claim.. Edited October 27, 2014 by in_spirit

[watertrade]

Thanks in_spirit, I have never done it but have wanted to educate myself in the basics of simple legal procedures. Hopefully never having to use them, but at least having some basics would be handy.

[ghosty]

Thanks the heads-up =) I stay away from facebook for reason that will become apparent in hmm lets say 7-8 years. the only feeling i got reading that was this Danny guy.. feels like a girl to me =P

[incognito]

I had to get my nose wet in this, he told me that he never received the money and told u that.

I'm unsure if he has any customers who vouch for him or not.

I told him your a dude of integrity who wouldn't lie, everyone here would vouch for that who knows u.

I asked if he's in dialog with you to sort it out which he said you both are, so either there been a fuck up with his bank or the banking details you provided him, or one of you are scamming which I would bet my life you aren't.

So I hope it works out you seem to have done the right thing with going to your bank and I'm sure you have explained that to him.

I hope it works out favourably for you wt as he's offering some expensive plants and if it's a Rort that would be a low act to pull on the net and if it is a scam u surely won't be alone so save the transaction details for further action when it is beyond a doubt with the rest of the folks who would want their coin back?