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Zulu warriors and fly agaric

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i flicked over to the discovery channel the other day to a show about zulu warrioprs or something

anyway they were talking about before going into battle, as they thought they would not return, the waarriors wou.ld take a snuff made from a red mushroom.

it would send them into a frenzy not unlike that of the berserka vikings

the drug was called muscimol so i gather the red mushrooim was the fly agaric

does anyone havbe any more info opn this or the use of f,ly agaric as a snuff?

thanx in advance

aaron

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Guest Mesqualero

nevermind

[This message has been edited by Mesqualero (edited 09 May 2002).]

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HUH?

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my query is: do the right trees exist in zulu country to form the symbiosis with fly? from your description it sounds about right but i would have thought that zulu country was not pine,oak,birch country. i could be wrong as i didn't bother to research what i've stated.

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I originally posted the same thing. ie: I thought that africa was hardly the place to find Fly Agarics.. howevere after looking into it further i found that Amanita species have been found in south africa and also in Northern Africa... so yeah spose it is possible that Zulus made use of it

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It's possible. I think I've heard of its use amongst the Zulus before. I've never encountered it's use as a snuff, 'tho.

[What's this nasal fixation we're getting?]

Talking of Amanitas, I was wondering when these little beauties fruit. I keep forgetting and would like to take some photos.

Does anyone know any areas around sydney where they might be found?

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I found some fly (I think) in ringwood in melbourne the other day. So they are fruiting here now. Although Adrian says they have been doing so for about a month now.

Does anyone know if there are very poisonous varieties of amanita that should not be consumed. There is a very diverse range of fairly contradictory information on the net.

Also in general I have been told that many mushroom species can be found all over the world in unlikely places due to the incredible ease (spores) with which they can propegate.

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poisonous! and badly so is the a.phalloides but you'll not easily mistake it for the fly.

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Deadly Amanita mushrooms include Amanita Verna, http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Amanita+Verna

Amanita Virosa http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Am...G=Google+Search

and Amanita Phalloides http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Am...nita+phalloides

There are probably more?? Anyways they are obviously much different looking than Amanita Muscaria..

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