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it's kinda small, and square, and what's that red cross thingy in the middle of it?

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very pretty. my candicans also just flowered and this is also a greenish flower, unlike scopolicolus and terscheckii which are pinkish.

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Guest reville

does anyones scops flower in perth? i heard that they did.

and also does *anyone* get their Pachanois to flower regularly?

the ones i have apparently flowered only twice in 12 years.

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Originally posted by waterdragon:

it's kinda small, and square, and what's that red cross thingy in the middle of it?

much prettier now.

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Originally posted by waterdragon:

much prettier now.

smart ass biggrin.gif

I have tried pollinating it with a red flowering epiphyllum/christmas cactus type so will see if it sets seeds.

I read somewhere that trichs, epiphyllum etc, and such are sometimes compatable so worth a shot.

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there was a problem with the pics as the file extension on the server was in capitals, but lower case in your post. I fixed it.

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so what species is it??

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Originally posted by Torsten:

so what species is it??

It's another of my unknowns. All I know about it is that I bought 2 that looked similar but one was white flowered and the other supposedly red (hasn't flowered ).

One is upright while the other has more of a clumping nature, possibly the white.

They have a mature specimen of the clumping type where I got it so will get a pic next time I'm there.

Cheers for fixing the pics.

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Re: Pachanoi flowering.

My first one ever flowered for me last year;

I had owned it for about eight years.

Looks like three are going to flower this

year :-) I wonder if it is an age thing which

causes them to flower, perhaps they just need

a degree of maturity?

My terscheckii X flowers happily every year.

Anyone wanna exchange some pollen so we can

try for a bit of genetic diversity?

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somnif, most of mine hafe flowered already, but I'll check to see if there are any more on the way. when do you expect the pachanoi to flower?

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hi,

as a fact its an age thing that makes

san pedros flower.

even in peru where its native it takes

up to 12 years for the giantic brug

like flowers to emerge, and dont forget

flowers open at night and than only for

24 hours.i rate the pachanoi flowers as

the best fragrance in the plantkingdom.

bye.

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Guest Ramon

I have some scopulicolis pollen I recently collected and then placed in the freezer.

Give me a email with address and I can send some pollen

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one of my san pedros(or is it a scop) has a nice huge bud on it at the moment. This is the first time it's flowered. I planted it(a 6 inch cutting) at the beginning of spring 2 years ago.

I"ll try and take a picture of it, if I discover the bloom before the heat of the day gets to it

EDIT

Actually could someone advise me if I can bring it indoors now, keep it inside untill the flower wilts, or does the plant require the energy of the sun even after the bud has formed for it to flower?

[This message has been edited by blog (edited 22 November 2002).]

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the flowers last two nights. well, they better, cos the female and male parts mature on different nights. But the heat of the day CAN wilt them enough to make them inaccessible the second ight. put the plant in the shade as soon as it opens (or the day before).

BTW, the flower/column/pups in the pics look very much like T.schickedanz.

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Originally posted by Torsten:

BTW, the flower/column/pups in the pics look very much like T.schickedanz.

cheers, I have a spare pup if your interested.

The pollination attempt didn't work but will hopefully have some differrent ones flowering next year.

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Torsten, Ramon,

Judging from last years timing, I think they

probably have 3 weeks or so to flowering.

I'll send out quick message a week before.

A question I have is how a cactus knows that

its pollen is from itself, and therefore

not to produce seed?

Related:

Will a pup which was taken originally

from a particular parent be fertile with

that parent?

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Originally posted by somnif:

Will a pup which was taken originally

from a particular parent be fertile with

that parent?

Only if the parent was self fertile to begin with.

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many plants have this self pollination protection. It is genetic (obviously), but I don't know how the plant 'reads' it.

Pups and cuttings are always genetically identical, so they count as being the same individual (and won't pollinate). This is the reason why i collect seedlings wherever I can. Minimum 2 of each.

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Thanks garret, Torsten,

It will be interesting to see if cacti

which I have purchased at various times

from the same source are genetically the

same or not. Considering the ease of

propagating via pups you'd almost bet this

was the case.

It shall be fun trying to remember where I

purchased various tricho's eight or so years

ago so that I can ensure some pollinating

success.

Is there anyway to distinguish between pup

grown cacti and seed grown ones?

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Originally posted by somnif:

It will be interesting to see if cacti

which I have purchased at various times

from the same source are genetically the

same or not.

I have scops from places as far apart as adelaide, melbourne, sydney and brisi which all turned out to be genetically identical. Much of the columnar propagation is done by cuttings.

Is there anyway to distinguish between pup

grown cacti and seed grown ones?

Only as seedlings. They have a club shape as they do not fatten much at the base initially.

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Originally posted by Torsten:

many plants have this self pollination protection. It is genetic (obviously), but I don't know how the plant 'reads' it.

From memory its something to do with the surface of the pollen, the markings on the coating of pollen are different for each individual and the plant recognises its own and won't accept it. Mind you this is from memory

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