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What to do with full variegated cutting?

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Hi guys, 

I may have gotten a bit out of my depth and gotten a variegated cut. It's small and pretty much completely yellow. Because of this I imagine it has to be grafted or will probably die? 

 

I've only ever grafted onto Peres, so am a tad worried I'll fuck it up, and on a vari'd piece. The options I have for stock are some short PC, maybe 10-15 CM, 60 CM psycho0 and a Peruvianus about a metre. The Peruv currently has 3 brand new pups popping at the moment, and as its my only one I'd kinda like to leave it be. 

 

Can anyone provide some suggestions please?  

If there is a good grafting stock recommended I will post up in the wanted section and hope I can grab one. 

Thanks. 

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Where are you based? I've got some rooted pc at an appropriate size for grafting. Sydney north area.

 

Is it small enough to impala graft with Pereskiopsis?

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Hey freako,

I'm up on the sunny coast. 

It's 13cm I'll attach the pic I bought from. 

 

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I can help you graft it if you want to head to Brisbane. 

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Grafts as normal, but keep the cover on for an extra week and keep out of sun for 3-4 weeks when it’s fully inflated... grafting varis has a much lower success rate then regular grafts. Or at least for me...

I would use your biggest stocks. Also, i would graft the tip, and slab graft the rest...

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Thanks for the tips mountaingoat, looking into the slabbing atm.. Is it pretty foolproof? I don't have many stocks to slab on, how many would you personally make from this piece? Also is it OK to leave it sitting while I chase around for some more rooted stock?  Apologies for the million questions lol. 

 

Hey mark, thanks for the offer I'll pm u in a sec :)

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Psycho0 is the superior grafting stock. It beats pc any day of the week.

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Slab grafts are the easiest type of graft. You have a much greater surface area of vascular tissue to line up, which makes it a whole lot easier. And because slabs flat, they are very easy to pply nice even pressure without worrying that the Scion will slide away from the intended position.

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Wedge grafts are also good for this reason. Greater surface area of union, and very stable once in position.

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Thanks Glaukus, I'm going to try slabbing all except the tip because I'm too fresh to be experimenting. Slabs onto PC, tip onto psycho0 as I only have the one. Bound to get at least one of them to take!:)

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Thanks everyone for helping with my noob questions.. Now, thoughts and prayers appreciated :worship:

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All you need is an areole, but my guess is that one is going to revert to green given enough time.

 

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So 4 out of the 5 seem to have taken which is awesome! The one that didn't, the stocks core sucked right down into a concave shape. Any idea why this would happen or how to predict/avoid it in the future? 

 

Also any ideas on what to do with the slab that failed? I have no more stock other than pere. Should I chop it up tiny and graft to those? Seems a waste to chuck it out. 

 

Thanks in advance :)

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congrats on 4/5!
assuming the vascular bundles were aligned my guess would be lack of pressure or humidity on the failed one.

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On 06/01/2020 at 4:43 PM, Pedro99 said:

So 4 out of the 5 seem to have taken which is awesome! The one that didn't, the stocks core sucked right down into a concave shape. Any idea why this would happen or how to predict/avoid it in the future? 

 

Also any ideas on what to do with the slab that failed? I have no more stock other than pere. Should I chop it up tiny and graft to those? Seems a waste to chuck it out. 

 

Thanks in advance :)

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To prevent that shrinkage, what you can do is prepare the stock as if you were about to graft, bevel edges/ribs, then leave it for a week or two. It might pucker, but then when you are about to graft, just make a fresh slice and bobs your uncle.

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Looking at that top slab graft you are trying to do, I can tell a few things... one,  you may have used an older possibly a middle cutting, to graft on.

 

Two, dry air or lack of humidity in this case was not your friend this time around. The faster your stock dries out the more of a problem you can have and that is compounded the older your stock is. 

 

It is a double edged sword though, too much humidity for too long and you are going to invite rot and infection. Especially so if your tools were not absolutely clean between each cut.

 

This is how I roll with a similar slab graft. Note, the stock in this case was only a few weeks old as it was grafted itself to be used as graft stock...

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