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Hey could someone please tell me what species she is 

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I don't claim to be an expert on identifying different Loph species/subspecies but if I had to guess I would say that your Loph is either a L. fricii or a L. williamsii.

The reason I can't decide is because I had a L. fricii in the past that had almost the exact same rib formation as the one in your pictures, but the flower reminds me more of an L. will. But I also noticed that it looks like this cacti was grafted(or degrafted) or possibly watered excessively(basically meaning it's been watered throughout it's life for optimal growth, which produces a more round, ball like, Loph...as compared to Loph's grown in habitat that are more flat and depressed on the top.). And a grafted Loph can often show different characteristics than a naturally grown Loph with the exact same genetics...so if this cacti is a grafted specimen, it could make it more difficult to properly ID it. That is partly why I though that L. williamsii is a possibility bc a grafted williamsii can develop more diffuse/different rib patterns, much like the one in your pics.

 

...And that's where the flower comes in. You can use the flower structure/color to help you get a positive ID. Unfortunately I am less knowledgeable about Loph flowers than other people. I'm more familiar with rib formation. But as I said, if this cacti has been grafted, or if it's even been watered more than necessary, the formationn of it's ribs, and possibly the flowers, can be affected. 

 

If I were you I would wait for someone with extensive knowledge on the differences in flower forms in the Lophophora genus to respond to your post/question. 

But I'm still willing to bet it's either fricii or williamsii. ***Oh, and please post better pics of the Loph if you can. Even if you can't get better quality images, a few pics from the side of the plant and other angles should help in the identification process..***

 

My best guess is that it's a grafted Lophophora williamsii. 

Good luck!

-CJ-

 

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Thanks mate its was sold to me as a willamsii but I was worried it could be a diffusa because of the shape but yeh your spot on its bloated as hell as I have a pretty solid watering routine as its under HPs lights and dries quickly . will it throw pups? Or will have to cut in half and regraft the top to a tricho? Also its getting wrinkles at the base of the scion what does that mean? Thanks man for all the info too I learnt a few things 

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2 hours ago, stona86 said:

cut in half and regraft the top to a tricho

Hi stona86, you could try areole graft. I have not tried this yet so no expert (I'm waiting for mine to get a bit bigger). You basically get a hole punch, (like the one used in leather or canvas work) push it over the areola(like coring an apple), tilt it to the side to break it off, trim the base smooth, and graft as normal. Does far less damage to your mother or you could do a lot more grafts.

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Hey crop, umm mate truthfully my grafting skills arnt that advanced I can impail graft with 100% success but worried I will kill my only fat and juicy loph bro.. Do you know what all the wrinkles is at the bottom.of the button? Is it trying to separate off the rootstock or it it just getting ready to throw pups? Do you think a impail graft would be a bad idea? 

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Are the wrinkles at the bottom(or any part of the Loph) squishy? If so, there is always the chance that it is starting to rot from the bottom up, which wouldn't be that surprising since it seems to me that the rootstock has seen better days and could be rotting as well. If you do suspect rot, I would definitely cut the Loph off of the stock at the lowest point where you still have completely healthy plant matter. And then you can choose to either root the remaining piece of cactus or re-graft it to another stock. 

 

If you don't suspect rot, and the wrinkled part is not squishy, it could be that your Loph is just choosing to grow that way, or that your cactus is dehydrated to some degree. And just because you know that the soil dries up quickly under the HPS lighting doesn't mean you need to water it every time it gets dry. A period of dryness in between watering's can help prevent rot and promote more natural looking growth. 

 

I have never heard of wrinkling being a sign of a Loph getting ready to pup, but i could have just not come across that info yet. Although with my Loph's I have never noticed any wrinkling before pupping. If anything it's been the opposite...the skin looks tight/stretched as the new pup(s) start to burst through the sides. 

 

If I were you I would just give it some more time if I wanted it to pup. It is grafted to produce faster growth which helps promote pupping, and it looks to be at about the right age/size where it should start pupping all on its own, with no cutting involved. 

 

-CJ-

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Thanks bro for that info. Yeah the rootstock looks shithouse I agree and the wrinkles are soft as hell so it's rotten aye? Its still flowering and dieing at the same time wtf? So thanks I'll regraft it man in that case

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lolz

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Hey ya right mate didn't even click on and cheers don't want anything incriminating on public forum 

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5 hours ago, stona86 said:

the wrinkles are soft as hell so it's rotten aye?

Mate ya got to get rid of the rot pronto. Ya can use a clean knife, I hold it under running water and use my fingers to rub off all the soft. I know water sounds stupid but you really got to get rid of ALL the soft shit. Pat it dry with paper towel, dust with sulfur. If you don't have sulfur, use cinnamon powder, or what ever anti-fungal you can get. Let it callus, worry about regrafting latter.

Just realised your in a dry area, anti-fungals might be overkill, but can't hurt.

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6 hours ago, stona86 said:

Its soft on the edges so thats rot I take it?

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Could be. It's kind of hard for me to say for sure without actually seeing it in person. The picture doesn't look like it's DEFINITELY rotting, but it could be just starting to rot and therefore isn't showing as many signs of it. But to me it sounds like it actually is starting to rot bc of how you say it's soft plus the pic of the rootstock that looks horrible. Better safe than sorry I guess???

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Hey cheers for that info and how does my clump look I noticed it was a bit softnand the bottom but watered and hot with light and kind of harden up but us it healthy is the root area suppose to be brown colour? Its how I got it supposed to be 5.5yo plant? How come only my lophs are screwed? All my trichos are OK and used same new cactus soil... And fellas a bit late I cut in half yesterday at the solid bit off the button and regrafted it so I just hope I got it all an it does t transfer to this rootstock... 

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