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Looks just like early edema indeed judging by the pics online.

 

If it was blister mites you probably would see them if you looked closely on the underside.

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Ok, maybe the problem I had last year....was the soil was too wet.

this year, I got more motherplants/ cuttings.

planted them in five gallon pots to give the roots space.

in the bottom of the planter, I mixed in additional sand for drainage.

used a forest potting soil, mixed in a bit extra sand, for the potting soil.

on top, I used peat moss as a sort of mulch.

...this might somewhat replicate the forest environment,

and keep the soil from drying out too fast.

i want to get this plant into sterile culture.

this time, I am going to be very carefull.

i would like to kill any potential bugs or pathogens, any suggestion?

Stone of Thor, you mentioned something about how to do that...any suggestions ?(Torstein)

Darklight?

Or anyone?

I have ideas too of course, but am never native learning more.

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Here are the pictures of the motherplant, this year....latine yesterday!

notice how the leaves are wide, and not narrow like the leaves on the video left by Meangreen...

 

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Watering the plant less really made a difference !

next, some pix of new growth.

these plants were propagated like caapi

from a section of vine maybe 1 cm thick , with bark on it.

any suggestions on cloning from smaller sections of new growth

or...... micropropagation ?

 

 

 

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Perhaps a clue to this Cabrerana ID?

Info and wisdom From our friend the highly esteemed venerable Keeper of the Trout....

coild it be........the one?

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Other Diplopterys employed
The Siona are familiar with P. viridis which is used by their neighbors the Kofan but use it only occasionally. They normally use D. cabrerana.

Two major classes of yajé agua are differentiated (by the Siona) based on their leaf size. One may prove to be another species of Diplopterys but more field work is needed.

yajé agua de pájaro: smaller of the two,
yajé agua de jaguar: the larger of the two.
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An online friend recently went to the Peruvian Amazon and brought back seeds of Banisteriopsis rusbyana, Banisteriopsis muricata and Alicia anisopetala. He sent me a few of each, so far only the B. rusbyana have sprouted.

 

All the info I can find points to B. rusbyana being synonymous with D. cabrerana. I asked him about that and this is what he said:

 

"I believe the original botanical description of diplo cab fits the rusbayana. I know folks in Peru and Brazil that tell me they are different plants.  It doesnt help that "chaliponga" can mean many different plants depending on where you are.  Check out my post on sept 18th on the Mallachts page, I have photos of the plants in question. Welcome to the 'diploponga' confusion!"

 

Here is a picture of the exact plant the seeds I have were harvested from:

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And pics from the same trip of a plant he identified as D. cabrerana but didn't bare seeds at the time:

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Picture of the B. rusbyana seeds & compared to B. caapi var. caupuri seeds:

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And my seedlings so far, one striking difference is that those have very meaty cotyledons, whereas I don't remember ever seeing cotyledons on caapi.

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thanks MG, i'll be watching your developments...

 

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