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Australia attacked Syria

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I doubt it.

 

.. And to think the RAAF yammered on about how they dont blindly receive targets from the murrcans without carefully studying the Intel...

 

Those syrian soldiers were besieged for nearly half a decade by the headchoppers and not once did the coalition attack ISIS in that area.  Suddenly we decide of all places in Isis ravaged eastern Syria we want to attack is a series of hills held by the syrian government for years, surrounded on all sides by legitimate headchopper targets, filled with uniformed soldiers, permanent artillery emplacements and the site of an airfield thats been receiving aid drops...... 

 

Suddenly two days out from the US Russia agreements deadline for them to begin cooperaring on terrorist targeting its decided that we mustmustmust help those poor syrian soldiers controlling 1% of the city.

 

Its bullshit. Obama and co are psychopaths and Australia is complicit in their illegal violation of syrian airspace.

 

Me wonders if this is an attempt to reshape the rapidly disintegrating US election narrative.

 

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Happens all the time in war, a breakdown in communication you'd assume.

 

How could such an act be beneficial to the coalition anyway? Win a battle to lose a war??? If they wanted to wipe Assad's regime off the map it would take them all of 2 days flat. Israel would have done it already anyway, -they're pretty much chomping at the bit.

 

Assad has killed thousands of innocents. Why shouldn't he hand over to a temporary unity government. 

 

Russia is only involved so has to have a stake of power in the middle east. Shame on Russia IMO.

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If it happens twice I'd be suss as, but as a one off I'm not seeing how it could be a calculated move.

 

That's just my take on it.

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I simply cant respond in a civil tone.  Back to my hole I guess, if I have nothing nice to say.

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Sorry dude, I'm not trying to fire you up.

 That was just my 2 cents. 

 

Whatever is really going on it's pure bullshit. War is so fcuked up!

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Edited by sagiXsagi

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On 9/18/2016 at 7:33 PM, Halcyon Daze said:

Sorry dude, I'm not trying to fire you up.

 That was just my 2 cents. 

 

Whatever is really going on it's pure bullshit. War is so fcuked up!

 

didn't mean to be rude i thought you were unnecessarily streaming that user

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On 18 September 2016 at 7:44 PM, sagiXsagi said:

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lol

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For those who didn't hear, it turns out Australia provided the mid-air refuelling.

 

Now hear ye, we are a part of this:

 

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/10/16/the-real-humanitarian-crisis-is-not-aleppo-paul-craig-roberts/

 

T

he Real Humanitarian Crisis Is Not Aleppo

Paul Craig Roberts

Why do we hear only of the “humanitarian crisis in Aleppo” and not of the humanitarian crisis everywhere else in Syria where the evil that rules in Washington has unleashed its ISIL mercenaries to slaughter the Syrian people? Why do we not hear about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen where the US and its Saudi Arabian vassal are slaughtering Yemeni women and children? Why don’t we hear about the humanitarian crisis in Libya where Washington destroyed a country leaving chaos in its place? Why don’t we hear about the humanitarian crisis in Iraq, ongoing now for 13 years, or the humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan now 15 years old?

The answer is that the crisis in Aleppo is the crisis of Washington losing its ISIL mercenaries to the Syrian army and Russian air force. The jihadists sent by Obama and the killer bitch Hillary (“We came, we saw, he died”) to destroy Syria are being themselves destroyed. The Obama regime and the Western presstitutes are trying to save the jihadists by covering them in the blanket of “humanitarian crisis.”

Such hypocrisy is standard fare for Washington. If the Obama regime gave a hoot about “humanitarian crisis,” the Obama regime would not have orchestrated humanitarian crisis in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Yemen.

We are in the middle of a presidential campaign in the US and no one has asked why the US is determined to overthrow a democratically elected Syrian government that is supported by the Syrian people.

No one has asked why the White House Fool is empowered to remove the president of Syria by siccing US-supplied jihadists, which the presstitutes misrepresent as “moderate rebels,” on the Syrian people.

Washington, of course, has no acceptable answer to the question, and that is why the question is not asked.

The answer to the question is that Washington’s strategy for destabilizing Iran and then the Muslim provinces of the Russian Federation, former Soviet central Asia, and the Muslim province of China is to replace stable governments with the chaos of jihadism. Iraq, Libya, and Syria had stable secular societies in which the government’s strong hand was used to prevent sectarian strife between Muslim sects. By overthrowing these secular governments and the current effort to overthrow Assad, Washington released the chaos of terrorism.

There was no terrorism in the Middle East until Washington brought it there with invasions, bombings, and torture.

Jihadists such as those that Washington used to overthrow Gaddafi appeared in Syria when the British Parliament and the Russian government blocked Obama’s planned invasion of Syria. As Washington was prevented from directly attacking Syria, Washington used mercenaries. The prostitutes that pretend to be an American media obliged Washington with the propaganda that the jihadist terrorists are Syrian democrats rebelling against “the Assad dictatorship.” This transparant and blatant lie has been repeated so many times that it now is confused with truth.

Syria has no connection whatsoever to Washington’s original justification for introducing violence into the Middle East. The original justification was 9/11 which was used to invade Afghanistan on the fabrication that the Taliban was shielding Osama bin Laden, the “mastermind,” who at the time was dying of renal failure in a Pakistani hospital. Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset who was used against the Soviets in Afghanistan. He was not the perpetrator of 9/11. And most certainly, neither were the Taliban.

But the Western presstitutes covered up for the Bush regime’s lie, and the public was deceived with the phrase that we must “defeat them abroad before they attack us at home.”

Of course, Muslims were not going to attack us at home. If Muslims are a threat, why does the US government keep bringing so many of them here as refugees from Washington’s wars against Muslims?

9/11 was the neoconservatives “new Pearl Harbor” that they wrote they needed in order to launch their wars in the Middle East. George W. Bush’s first Secretary of the Treasury said that the topic of Bush’s first cabinet meeting was the invasion of Iraq. This was prior to 9/11. In other words, Washington’s wars in the Middle East were planned prior to 9/11.

The neoconservatives are zionists. By reducing the Middle East to chaos they achieve both of their goals. They remove organized opposition to Israeli expansion, and they create jihadism that can be used to destabilize countries such as Russia, Iran, and China that are in the way of their exercise of unilateral power, which, they believe, the Soviet collapse bequeathed to the “indispensable nation,” the USA.

Osama bin Laden, the alleged 9/11 mastermind, was dying, not directing a terror war against the US from a cave in Afghanistan. The Taliban were focused on establishing their rule in Afghanistan, not on attacking the West. After blowing up weddings, funerals, and children’s soccer games, Washington moved on to Iraq. There was no sign of Iraqi belligerence toward the US. UN weapons inspectors said that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but Washington did not hear. The whores who comprise the American media helped the Bush regime create the image of a nuclear mushroom cloud going up over America if the US did not invade Iraq.

Iraq had no nuclear weapons and everyone knew it, but facts were irrelevant. There was an agenda at work, an undeclared agenda. To advance its agenda that the government did not dare reveal, the government used fear. “We have to kill them over there before they kill us over here.”

So Iraq, a stable, progressive country was reduced to ruins.

Libya was next. Gaddafi would not join Washington’s Africa Command. Moreover, China was developing the oil fields in eastern Libya. Washington was already troubled by Russia’s presence in the Mediterranean and did not want China there also. So Gaddafi had to go.

Next Assad was set up with faked evidence that he had used chemical weapons against the rebellion that Washington had started. No one believed the transparent Washington lie, not even the British Parliament. Unable to find support to cover an invasion, Killary the Psychopath sent the jihadists Washington used to destroy Libya to overthrow Assad.

The Russians, who until this point had been so naive and gullible as to trust Washington, finally figured out that the instability that Washington was brewing was directed at them. The Russian government decided that Syria was their red line and, at the request of the Syrian government, intervened against the Washington-supported jihadists.

Washington is outraged and is now threatening to commit yet another criminal violation of the Nuremberg Standard with blatant aggression against Syria. Such an ill-advised step would bring Washington into military conflict with Russia and by implication with China. Before Europeans enable Washington to initiate such a dangerous conflict, they had best consider the warning from Sergey Karaganov, a member of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s Foreign Policy and Defense council: “Russia will never again fight on its own territory. If NATO initiates an encroachment against a nuclear power like ourselves, NATO will be punished.”

That the government of the United States is criminally insane should frighten every person on earth. Killary-Hillary is committed to conflict with Russia. Regardless, Obama, the presstitutes, and the Democratic and Republican establishments are doing everything in their power to put into the Oval Office the person who will maximize conflict with Russia.

The life of the planet is in the hands of the criminally insane. This is the real humanitarian crisis.

Note: Lt. General Michael Flynn, director of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency stated in an interview that the creation of ISIS was “a willful Washington decision.” See, for example:
https://www.rt.com/usa/312050-dia-flynn-islamic-state/ Also: http://russia-insider.com/en/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad/ri7364

The DIA warned that ISIS would result in a Salafist principality over parts of Iraq and Syria.http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf The warning went unheeded as the neoconservative Obama regime saw ISIS as a strategic asset to be used against Syria.

 

 

 

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There are so many of these so i'll summarise

 

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I totally don't understand cause i have absolutely no idea who assad even is (but i think i get the point) but that is hilarious!

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President of Syria, although you would think Syria was a dictatorship the way these dreadful scum tried to dictate for many years that the elected leader of Syria should step down and be replaced by a puppet.  

 

Long live Assad, and fuck Western leaders.  our leaders disgust me.  hundreds of thousands dead.  we collude with actual tyrants, staging a "rebellion" which destroys a nation killing hundreds of thousands and have the nerve to criticise this man.

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Incredibly, Egypt now fully backs Syria.  as Egypt tends not to be involved in ME strife its easy to forget what a powerful player they are, but the real crazy thing is that until now the current conflicts have, by coincidence or otherwise, been along sectarian lines.  egypt is overwhelmingly Sunni.

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Im sure ive said repeatedly turkey is the wildcard, their intention cant be fully known because they are playing opportunist.  today they announced their military is in Syria to unseat Assad, which is massive.  no follow-ups as yet.

 

On  a more positive note, the following Aleppo update.  I dont present it as an unbiased source.

 

 

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Hawaiian democrat senator Tulsi Gabbard visited Syria:

 

Gabbard also repeated a line that the Assad regime has long pushed — that there are no moderate rebels left in Syria.

“Every place that I went, every person that I spoke to, I asked this question to them [about arming moderate rebels], and without hesitation they said, ‘There are no moderate rebels,’ ‘Who are these moderate rebels that people keep speaking of?'” Gabbard said. “Regardless of the name of these groups, the strongest fighting force on the ground in Syria is al-Nusra or Al Qaeda and ISIS. That is a fact.”

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Hehe, I'm Syrian, straight up every time I went there everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, was down with Assad and not in a North Korea-fear kind of way, like a total and utter respect for the guy. I've been following this for a lot longer than the West as I had over 100 relatives displaced because of IS. You have to remember that not everyone should think and act the way Westerners are, or one of my favourite sayings  'everyone knows a tree which flourishes in one kind of earth may decay and die in another'.

+ on top of this, everything is sooooo soooooooo exaggerated by the media. My sister just visited Aleppo and it was all chill (except for a suicide bombing at a military base after she left :P).

From a Syrian, cheers for the back up Thunderldeal. You don't understand how many people view me as a bad person because I didn't listen to the news on TV and I don't think Assad is "like Hitler".

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Thankyou so much for the validation.

 

Beware Western media narratives everyone!

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Posted (edited)

To be honest, I feel like it's all media. They seem to have turned from journalism to clickbait, there is a great term for it all; Yellow Journalism. It just seems like they're either writing it to bias people in a specific way, instead of informing them of the situation and letting them come up with their own view. That and just entertainment. You see it a lot as they jump from one cause to another. Really, people have just become slacktivists (there was a great word my friend introduced me to that was better than slacktivist) getting their dopamine fix by liking a page or writing a misinformed post without the proper research. Anyway I could rant for days about misinformation and how our society is falling into this dark pit of stupidity.

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Operation mockingbird is alive and well.

 

It sounds like crazy conspiracy theory but its fact.

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Posted (edited)

This is kinda new but the trail goes way back.  take my word for it.

 

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/feb/15/memo-offers-look-cias-private-press-pool/

 

I openly admit I trust RT over any Western outlet when it comes to a divided issue.. Not that I even read rt anymore, but absolutely I would believe rt before putrid mainstream Western lies

 

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