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He's not the only one saying similar things - not that I'd take anything Cernovich said seriously. 

The Deep State connection in that article is interesting though - I think there's quite a bit of consensus  from otherwise opposing sides of politics on the involvement/existence of the deep state in world events and the presidency. 

 

Deep State: sometimes seen as a state within a state, one that does not respond to the visible civilian leadership of democratically elected bodies, and that exists in a complex relationship within a transnational 'Deep System' of global finance and organised crime, all of which "are covert or suppressed, outside public awareness as well as outside sanctioned political processes.” Or something like that. 

 

The author of this article: How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State has an interpretation of events that portrays the Trump regime as not being an 'outside' this global elite. Rather, he's supported by one faction (or group of factions) of the deep state against another. By this analysis, the Deep State knows it is facing an environmental/resource/financial crisis (because they are all really linked), and the disagreement is between those factions that have differing ideas on how to respond to this problem. On one side there is a nationalist corporate-military nexus favouring a 'Fortress America' response, on the other there are those who think everything can be fixed with technology and a bit of regulatory and philanthropic tinkering. You can probably guess which faction Trump is supposedly linked to, likewise no prizes for seeing where Hillary Clinton fits into this model. 

 

I don't know if the analysis absolutely works, but it's an interesting (but quite long) read - especially the section on the Deep System and the crisis facing it. Even if you disagree with the rest, and maintain that Trump is a relative outsider, rather than being 'a tool to re-organize and restructure the Deep State', the Deep System and its crisis are worth being aware of. If Trump actually is the person that good people (as opposed to numb-nuts like Richard Spencer) who support him hope he is, then I think this gives a sense of the enormity of challenges ahead of him.

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Maybe it's the MJ-12 group that Kennedy locked horns with before they whacked him ?

 

Trump didn't have much choice as far as Flynn was concerned, if he kept backing him he would have lost all credibility as he would have been seen to be endorsing someone who'd lied about matters of state.

 

It looks like the inner circle still has its grip on the reigns though.

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Since Hollywood wont give this guy work anymore, he has spare time to tweet some cool shit

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealJamesWoods

 

 

Some investigation of soros in the US 

 

 

https://archive.is/sqY4C

 

 

Impossible to make sense of it all but this purports to be an interview with an insider and its really eye-opening.  

 

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/02/17/dhs-insider-says-its-spy-vs-spy/

 

 

 

 

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http://www.thecanary.co/2017/02/22/media-trump-document-release-exposes-cia-didnt-want-see/

While the media focuses on Trump, a new document release exposes what the CIA really didn’t want us to see

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Public interest in leaked and declassified intelligence reports has surged in the era of WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden. But while media outlets focus on the antics of Donald Trump, they continue to ignore hugely revealing information that could really embarrass powerful leaders, organisations, and even entire countries. And recently, as WikiLeaks continues to uncover covert US actions around the world, the CIA has actually had to release documents itself.

Below are five key revelations from a recent document dump from the CIA.

New WikiLeaks release downplayed

WikiLeaks recently published a ‘smoking gun‘; a high-level US intelligence report which proves the US sought to interfere in the 2012 French presidential elections. While the revelation headlined in European newspapers, The New York Times and others downplayed it. And The Associated Press, in its very brief coverage, dismissively (and falsely) labelled the CIA spying as “standard intelligence gathering”.

 

But documents which the CIA itself has recently released show yet again that we shouldn’t be at all surprised by revelations of illegal schemes and covert malfeasance abroad.

CIA online document dump

On 17 January 2017, the CIA released nearly a million newly declassified files (totalling about 12 million pages) to its online CREST database (“CIA Records Search Tool”) in response to federal lawsuits. Journalists and researchers are still only starting to pour through this material (searchable here).

But below are five important finds that have received little to no media attention since the release.

These and other declassified documents help to give us a better understanding of history and how the US operates, especially in places like the Middle East.

1) A Reagan-era CIA memo considered Syrian regime change through a Muslim Brotherhood insurgency (1986)

The following is from a 24-page formerly secret report entitled Syria: Scenarios of Dramatic Political Change. Its authors? A CIA unit then known as the “Foreign Subversion and Instability Center”. The report describes scenarios which are remarkably similar to events as they unfolded at the start of the war now gripping Syria:

 

We believe that a renewal of communal violence between Alawis and Sunnis could inspire Sunnis in the military to turn against the regime.
[p12]

Remnants of the Muslim Brotherhood–some returning from exile in Iraq–could provide a core of leadership for the movement. Although the regime has the resources to crush such a venture, we believe brutal attacks on Sunni civilians might prompt large numbers of Sunni officers and conscripts to desert or stage mutinies in support of dissidents, and Iraq might supply them with sufficient weapons to launch a civil war.
[pp20-21]

In our view, US interests would be best served by a Sunni regime controlled by business-oriented moderates. Business moderates would see a strong need for Western aid and investment to build Syria’s private economy, thus opening the way for stronger ties to Western governments.
[p24]

 

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2) The CIA pondered over how to justify supporting Saddam Hussein in spite of his known use of chemical weapons (1984)

A memo sent to the CIA’s highest office (then known as “Director of Central Intelligence”) deliberated over whether the US might continue financial support for Hussein’s government even after his illegal and repeated use of chemical weapons became well-known. The CIA didn’t want plans for a Gulf-and-West-friendly oil pipeline project to be disrupted:

Moreover, recent Iraqi activities, such as use of chemical weapons and irresponsible attacks against Gulf tankers make it difficult to justify US financial help for the pipeline. But although there are obvious problems, I believe this issue should be discussed at high levels in the near future and a decision taken on whether, how, and under what circumstances the US government should support this project.
[p2]

 

3) A secret US military programme sought to use psychics and “remote viewing” to spy on Iran (1982-1983)

A secret operation called “Grill Flame” involved a group of military-trained psychics in Maryland attempting to remotely “view” US hostages held captive in Iran during the Iran hostage crisis (1979-81). The following briefing after the event argued that psychic and ESP techniques (“Extra Sensory Perception”) were valid forms of intelligence collection:

The collection of intelligence through remote viewing has demonstrated its value. Remote viewing is a successful collection method (not an experiment)… Remote viewing should never stand alone, but should be used in conjuction with information from other intelligence sources.
[p15]

 

4) A CIA memo outlined a plan to use US allies to stage border incidents with Syria in order to allow access to an oil pipeline (1983)

The plan laid out in a CIA document called Bringing Real Muscle to Bear Against Syria doesn’t appear to have ever been carried out. But it envisioned using then US ally Saddam Hussein, along with Israel and Turkey, to secure US oil interests via covertly staged border attacks:

The US should consider sharply escalating the pressures against [Hafez] Assad through covertly orchestrating simultaneous military threats against Syria from three border states hostile to Syria: Iraq, Israel, and Turkey. Iraq… would undertake limited military (air) operations against Syria with the sole goal of opening the pipeline.
[p1]

Faced with three belligerent fronts, Assad would probably be forced to abandon his policy of closure of the pipeline.
[p1]

The US should consider urging Iraq to take the war to the other key source of its predicament: Syria.
[p2]

 

5) A secret CIA study concluded that any future revolution in Syria would likely result in “long term” sectarian-based terrorism inside the country (1985)

A lengthy CIA study explored scenarios of sectarian war inside Syria. It predicted that government destabilisation would ignite a sect-based war between Sunnis and the Alawites that dominate the higher levels of government:

We believe a Sunni challenge to Assad’s successors in the long term probably would take the form of terrorism or insurrection in provincial urban centers.
[p12]

To succeed, mass opposition pitting Sunnis against the new regime would require breaking the coalition of Alawites and rural Sunnis, destroying military discipline and Ba’ath Party identification, and detaching peasants, workers, and the salaried middle class from their dependence on state and party institutions.
[pp12-13]

 

So there we go. Talk of destabilising other countries. An apparent lack of concern for human rights. And even some extrasensory perception for good measure. All in a day’s work at the CIA.

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Crazy stuff huh?

 

Wading through all of the russiagate memogate nonsense, its pertinent to note that the Saudis are about to receive unprecedented US weapons sales.  The trio of USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia have long been aligned against the fundamentalist Shiite power Iran.  this is no fucking joke. 

 

Compared to the Hillary model, some heat (not much) has been taken off of Russia and brought to bear on Iran instead.  Syria is still in the cross hairs as further evidenced by the coalition airstrike today on a Syria friendly militia which got to close too the base where America is training jihad invaders and mercenaries to destroy the legitimate government of Syria.  

 

FWIW my assessment is this.  Forget north Korea;  It is not on the table, it was never on the table.  Syria and Iran are next in line for destruction.  North Korea was mostly a distraction, or maybe a foiled attempt to change the outcome of the south Korean election (moon seeks friendship with China and North Korea)

 

They wanted to openly invade after the 2013 chemical weapon false flag but Russia prevented that outcome.  Maybe the illegal coup in Ukraine was punishment for that? 

 

 

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Was the trump stock market rally driven by the expectation he would get anywhere with his domestic agenda:  Infrastructure spending, tax cuts, less regulation?...  a tax overhaul is probably dead in the water like the healthcare overhaul.  

 

I just dont see America lumbering along too much longer let alone taking on more debt to fix their infrastructure.

 

The dollar will eventually go down hard ushering in perhaps a china-centric era.  China has problems too but that region on the world, led by a China Russia partnership, seem to be making long term preparations for the end of the petrodollars reign and the SWIFT banking system.  Not a bad outcome IMO but the transition would be a long and tragic road.

 

^sorry I cant seem to talk about current events without wheeling out another doom prediction.

 

What I wanted to say is that some interesting facts are emerging about Seth Rich(murdered dnc staffer and likely source of pre election leaks).  While the media and the deep state cobble together a Russian interference narrative consisting of allegations by unnamed sources, there is total silence around Seth Rich.

 

 

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Well its a sad day.

 

Bannon said he will fight for trump from outside (through breitbart) but what even is trump without steve bannons guidance?  The vision put forth by "campaign trump" as we refer to him posthumously was bannons vision, now there is nobody in the whitehouse to fight for that vision.  The banksters and generals will get along well enough.  The press may even lay off it a bit.  Theres no need to impeach the president if he's already stabbed himself in the heart. 

 

My optimism had been occasionally lifted but this feels like the deathblow.

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*sudden urge to love trump again even more more than just for winning against a feminaz this time* 

 

oh no , that sounds unfortunate , just kinda following your writings on the subject and I like your perception of the situation and ability to break it down to something understandable ...

 

I love and worry about America a lot since making so many awesome friends there 

 

Thank you kindly Thunder I really appreciate you sharing these posts especially seeing as there's only so much gardening a hoss can ramble about and it's nice to still shoot the shit so as to speak and see the shit shot without leaving the sanctuary of the virtual garden .

 

not much to add content-wise other than the above gratitude for the eye openings from your more experienced level.

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