sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) TCM#1 / kada's garden / looks like Smiths "short spined peruvianus" (wrong name), and propably CCC and altmans clone too. ^^^^^^ my most prized specimen. I expect it to flower at some point soon, and I assure you I designed it to be so beautiful - and well maybe I was a bit lucky since the column hasn't yet terminated, currently it is reverting to monstrosa growth a period when column growth speed reduces dramatically . ^^^^^^^ new surprisingly long spines in older growth (well not surprisingly, its a pachanoi, no?) in another specimen. main column has terminated. one of the pups seems to have pupped - not sure why, but propably not damage. PS: ALL TPM#1 's I am showing in this thread come from a single clone (kada's garden,) Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) finally peruxjuul's monstrose- relevant,,, idk? but this is another seed batch that produced mutations and crests, i have four clones of this seed batch, 2 only vary slightly, 1 is a consistent monstrose columnar (that alot of you have seen elsewhere), and one is such a tight crest that it has curled all the way over on itself, like a clinched fist. k. done for now ill take more pics later wow, post moreplease!! besides TPM could both men pachanoi or peruvianus mosntrosa so its relevant, bring them on! Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highdesertcacti Posted November 17, 2015 ThisThreadIsWorthless.gif oh, i GOT to learn how to do this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) TPM#2 "crest type" / europe . I sourced it from "kakteen plapp" a german nursery at 2008-2009 ... doesn't really revert to columnar except for a little bit untill it goes crest again.. faster growing than TPM#1 IME and 2 of my biggeys... They too could flower some time soon... PS: all TPM#2 specimens I am showing here come from the same clone / variety : "kakteen plaap" euro "pachanoi crest" Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) an overall comment about me comparing TPM #1 which seems to be mostly columnarish for most, and TPM#2 which is obviously the TRUE crest , lets say ( a reference to the "true blue" ) the reason I compare them is that when I started growing TPM#1 it became a crest (came rooted from Taiwan) and I dealed for a long time with both clones as crests, and really didn't didn't find any differenence in them... (was a complete newbie at 2008) except when the TPM#1/kada mother started going columnar again ... by that time, I had created various crested specimens of it. So it was (they were) a crest for me, at least at the begining... and when it went columnar I tried to create a bunch of them columnars ... after several years, I realise that the two strains TPM#1 and TPM#2 have huge differences, yet once they looked alike in my eyes. peace Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) in fact I got a feat that can differentiate the two two strains from the crest density: TPM#1 crest is less dense and bigger TPM#2 crest is more dense, smaller and curls more ... (for same sized spcimens) I intend to so some measuring experiments... the spines are diffent also... TPM#1's spines are more sturdy. ( have grown them for 7+ years in full or almost full sun ) Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) now this is a seemingly different clone, from oz, australia, bogan-land its seems a bit different than say TPM#2 but its early to say how its different.. for once I saw reddish spines, and reddening of the epidermis near the crest margin .... (plus there was some glaucousness) might end up to be a peruvianus crest / monstrosa Edited November 17, 2015 by sagiXsagi 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) some hulksmash piccies and a toxic crusader to share I just took :3 crestardo from Greece crestardo from Germany altman's monstardo from USA possible same strain pach as ^^ and one from Poland Edited November 18, 2015 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highdesertcacti Posted November 19, 2015 Huaraz Crestata here is a pic my friend shared. it was a crest collected in Huaraz, the capital city of Ancash Province in Peru. used with permission 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irabionist Posted November 29, 2015 Source claims it to be from US, guessing it's the one that's from Home Depo?The "mother" cutting Grafted a pup that looked like the mother and it seems to be cresting 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highdesertcacti Posted November 29, 2015 Source claims it to be from US, guessing it's the one that's from Home Depo? The "mother" cutting IMG_2189.JPG Grafted a pup that looked like the mother and it seems to be cresting IMG_2127.JPGIMG_2126.JPG i will 2nd your source: this looks like altmans tpm,,, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooge Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) very nice plants on this thread. Sagi your crest are superb. am digging yours as well Horze. got a few TPM x's and a TPM TPM x Huancabamba TPM x x (SS02 x Pach) TPM x SS02 TPM TPM x N1, my have, the left hand arm of this plant is doing some special things TPM x (SS02 x Pach) TPM x Huancabamba TPM x (SS02 x Pach) Edited November 30, 2015 by olive 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nrivers Posted November 30, 2015 Very nice Olive! That TPM X SS02 crest looks awesome, a bit different to the norm, looks very fat! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spooge Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Tis a nice crest that one Nrivers, came from a guy offa here last year, i grafted it and it has puffed up nicely. probably wait till next summer once it is bigger and degraft it. hows your kick ass front garden going man? Edited December 2, 2015 by olive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nrivers Posted December 2, 2015 The garden is going well, thanks Olive. In the process of doing the backyard yard now, though will take a while to complete. But have been collecting a lot off nice plants for it, they then will motivate me to get it done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) what has been previously described as {{{TCM#1 / kada's garden / looks like Smiths "short spined peruvianus" (wrong name), and propably CCC and altmans clone}}} usually called TPM yet another photo Edited December 23, 2015 by sagiXsagi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted July 4, 2016 post image online my crest-crest, TPC, #2 , clone, biggest specimen, long time no cut 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted August 2, 2016 so called altman's clone type img host img host img host and the other type, TCM, even though a couple are altmans/kada/TPM#1 img host 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conv3rgence Posted August 3, 2016 Has anyone managed to get these into Australia? I know the genetics are here in various TPM crosses but Ive never seen the originals... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) dammit , absolutely gutted that this beautiful monstruose 'hulky -skin' looking pachanoi alty has crested , ... and it's the second one that's done it now.. Do non-cresting monstruose pachanoi exist? or do they all crest eventually? i hope this was the right place to ask ;) I sure hope this doesn't happen to melted wax and cockie bridgies... Edited August 3, 2016 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ stupid thing posted before i was dun 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagiXsagi Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Conv3rgence said: Has anyone managed to get these into Australia? I know the genetics are here in various TPM crosses but Ive never seen the originals... if you're talking about mine, yeah I have had success even with random ebay sales. And I have sent cuttings to a nice SAB person, I am not sure if it was just the crest/TCM clone or also the altmans/TPM1 monstrosa one.. now I dont know if they are the originals, but they're both very popular clones. 1 hour ago, ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ said: dammit , absolutely gutted that this beautiful monstruose 'hulky -skin' looking pachanoi alty has crested , ... and it's the second one that's done it now.. Do non-cresting monstruose pachanoi exist? or do they all crest eventually? When I got mine from kada's garden some years before, a rooted columnar-monstrosa cutting, I planted it and it reverted to crest. Kada was amazed and said this hadn't happened to him. At first I thought this clone to be mostly crest, but then it started reverting back to columnar.. Over all its not an often but also not a rare occasion. I have narrated over this earlier in this thread too. you can consider yourself lucky, or else there are many things you can do if you dont like the crest.. like cut the fucker at the lower column level. and no a semimonstrosa bridgesii will not revert to crest, but that would be an awesome thing for most of us monster lovers. Well, tastes differ. The fact your column is doing a crest at the top is fucking awesome. you just dont realise it yet. Edited August 3, 2016 by sagiXsagi 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solaritea Posted August 3, 2016 Sacred Succulent's Clone B 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solaritea Posted August 3, 2016 And California Cactus Center's (CCC) T. peruvianus (which became T. peruvianus short spine as discussed on page 1.) This ones as tall as me. The crest is just a few years old. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solaritea Posted August 3, 2016 A monstrose form from US eBay seller Jessica, described by a member here as being Heavy As Loving Fuck. Came to me from Southern California, not too far from CCC but looking at the old growth I think it might be a different form. Time will tell. Just started cresting this season. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solaritea Posted August 3, 2016 Sacred Succulent's Clone A. I think this is the same as CCC's "peruvianus". And sorry, I know you wanted columns but crests are what I've got available at the moment. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
