spooge

pics of the acacia plants i look after.

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this thread has been unlocked now so if any one wants to chat bout the plants then I'm happy too :)


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what type of soil mix are the phlebs growing in please?

awesome piccies mate

your acacia are doing very well horsey, esp with the stress of the move etc........

They are in the mix i was advised to use from Communicacian, same mix for all these acacia as far as I'm aware

MIX

20mm gravel or similar, granite is prob best., 40%

Native osmocote potting mix, 55%

road base, small handful for each pot

native osmocote slow release fertiliser, small handful for each pot, important as they don't add enough to the potting mix

Ive not repotted the phlebs as yet, i must get some big pots with good drainage and then repot them

Excellent drainage is a prerequisite for these plants.

i plan to plant these plants out either late oct, early nov, because i will have to water them all through summer i may plant them like the first lot i did in winter next year,

These ones are doing very well even though they are in wettish conditions

the other side of the creek where the phlebs and others are going is a much steeper and drier hillside.

i propose to build a path strait across this hill side so i can get access to all the plants.

i have repotted them all as most were in tubes and i also want them to get the best start in the medium that their in as possible before they are planted out so they have really good roots etc........

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The sooner you get them in the ground, the better. They don't like being in pots for too long, and they explode with growth once they touch down to earth.

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cool man, i will certainly keep that in mind.

they are being planted up stream from a dam so it will be possible to water them during summer.

just gotta get some water pumps fixed tis all so can pump water from the dam to water them

this is a large investment so i wanna make sure everything goes well and they all live n grow huge for the future.

I'm planning on panting the 100 courtii when i get them in a huge plant grove in a spot i have reserved for them

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update on the acacia

still in pots, going to wait till autumn till i plant them in the ground

have had to up pot the phlebs (got a few left to do) and will prob have to do so with the others as they are growing very fast

they are in the green house over summer

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Hi Olive

Given the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ?

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Hi OliveGiven the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ?

Hey Flux.......I dunno man, the mix I've used for the acacia I was advised to use by the man - Communacacian

Hopefully someone who knows the answers will chime in and let us know.

I've just acquired some courtii from the man and I was gonna pot them up in the same mix as the rest, as the acacia here are doing so well in it.

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Interestingly Courtii has demonstrated strong ability to adapt to most conditions found in Australia (from what I have heard) it certainly grows well here in Melbourne which leaves the question of 'why are some plants, in this case A. Phlebophylla and A.Courtii microendemic?' left open. It could have to do with their specific rhizobia symbiot however my tests (and others) have shown that even when not inoculated with their preferred strain of bacteria they grow fine. I personally believe they choose to only grow naturally at their defined locations, big. granite. crystal mountains! However, with a little encouragement will grow anywhere reasonable. Even more interestingly these locations have particular relevance to the indigenous people of those areas...

All Courtii I have sent out have been inoculated with the bacteria direct from their home turf. As it is now present in the soil and root system of the plants they can then be potted on with the standard acacia mix Olive described which is native potting mix, granitic sand, perlite and slow release native fertilizer. Acacias are tough and adaptable, once they have developed some reasonable phyllodes only lack of water or getting the trunk snapped off in the wind seems to kill them!

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I have acuminate's (broad and narrow), maidenii, floriunda, confusa, koa and phlebs growing well with neurophylla and courtii germinating. Never inoculated any of them and have used native and baileys potting mix with some coarse river sand and perlite in the mixes with some native osmocote thrown in.

Unfortunately they're in pots, yet are still cranking out the growth. Don't be too fussy I believe, they're tough lil buggers as communacacian said.

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Hi Olive

Given the micro-conditions that A.Courtii occurs in, is there a specific soil-mix recommended for these or would the Phleb mix suffice ?

I thinks the charm lays in the ability to germinate said seeds rather than what they grow in!

I've grown phleb in coir/sand to no detrimental effects, the detrimental effects layed in the number of seed that's purely didn't germinate

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4 and a bit months later...........

phlebs

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obtusafolia

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confusa

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acuminata

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florabunda

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courtii

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lost the tag to these???

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sexy

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very soon they will all go in the ground, am umming and erring bout the phlebs though

i may position them, in their large pots on a steep bank that gets summer shade, the soil here is very clay, i figure they will shoot roots through the drainage holes in the pots into the soil below, this will keep the main body of the root ball in the perfect draining acacia mix and the plants can decide if the dirt on the embankment is suitable for them. don't want to risk their lives, will be heart breaking if they die due to poor drainage in the clay soil. summers here can be a bit hot as well hence the shaded position.

these went in the ground during winter 2015

kinda like testers to ensure when i plant the ones in the pots in the ground that they will like the soil and do well

they have not had any care and no summer watering - apart from the phlebs which are planted in a few buckets of blue metal for extra drainage as the soil here is clay

these phlebs came from herbalistics, sent bare root with their heads cut off :(

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planted this maidenii 3 years ago as a tiny seedling

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these maidenii are from Communacacian and were planted as tube stock winter 2015

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obtusafoilia - Communacacian

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acuminata - Communacacian

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florabunda tube stock from the b shop planted winter 2014

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these grow all over the place, self seeding everywhere

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have more courtii and obtusafoilia on the way :)

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Nice. Your lost tag acacia could be simplex maybe?

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Be nice if they were Glaukus

have tried simplex here before, unfortunatly they were sent not very well packed by a 'no longer here' member and arrived all mushed up, tried to keep them alive but they died.....

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Sick dude!!

Lost tag looks concurrens to me??

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I can send you a simplex if you want one.

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Concurrens sounds right DB, thanks man

oooo yes please Glauky, will pm you for a trade man

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that looks awsome! yep id say the lost tags are concurrens! very cool that you have a stream going through there

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Spooge, your place looks amazing.

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14 hours ago, Glaukus said:

Spooge, your place looks amazing.

 

Its a very nice area, 'high rainfall' for SA

gotta like hills here and longish winters, not much frost which is nice, one or two mornings it can get to 0, and rearely gets to 40 degrees during summer, lotsa mid 30's and thunder storms that bring welcomed summer rains.

once was a large cattle farm, the bit we've got was subdivided in the 80's.

the property was fairly run down when we got here 4 years ago, lotsa rubbish, was over stocked n the cows had eaten everything down to nothing.

though the acacias may form a bit of a mono culture they should stop erosion and encourage more bird and animal life.

theres 2 species of acacia that grow wild here already plus quite a few introduced types that were planted 20ish years ago that are nice n big now.

 

12 hours ago, theuserformallyknownasd00d said:

Simply put... you need more acacias 

 

B)

 

may get some more to plant out some other areas as time goes on, next big thing though is to start planting gums and understory natives in a large section that we havnt fenced for sheep, massive hill that has some huge gums and is slowly rehabilitating its self . the tree wraps should last a number of years so I'll take them off the acacias and use them for the gums and other native plants when they are planted.

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you're actualisisng my dream you lucky southern Australian

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That valley is truly epic man.

How good to be sitting under the shade of them looking at the creek in 5 yrs !

It will be a place of pilgrimage for acacia lovers, our Sydney /Newcastle crew might book in for a roadtrip meet then.  : )

Full credit to Communacacian for his work getting these plants up and out there, 

I only have 4 of his Courtii, powering out of winter, and they are highly cherished.

Much respect Spooge, thats a manifestation if I ever saw one. 

 

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