Will these upside down lophophora-no-aerole grafts ever grow?

[gr33ntea]

I made these grafts of seedlings on pereskiopsis. THey are the upside down part of seedling. They have gotten a bit fat but compared to the top-side grafts they havent grown at all, some of them not at all.

Will they ever grow?

[Idon'tstudydinosaurs]

I did a bum graft a while back. Quite successful, however mine had aerioles. The pups grow from the aerioles, so not sure of whether they will be a success or not.

[Berengar]

They should throw pups from the graft join, but will probably take them a while.

[gr33ntea]

So even with no aerole, it will grow eventually?

[Gimli]

Can you please explain bum grafts and why you do them over a graft of the normal way?

Thanks

[Idon'tstudydinosaurs]

When you do a graft using the top half, there is obviously the bottom half left. Both halves are equally useful for grafts so it seems, to me anyway, to leave the bottom half in the soil is counter productive. People think they're ugly, but hey if it works.

Edited February 11, 2015 by archaeologistintraining

[Dreamwalker.]

if you slice a seedling for a graft & use the top...why waste the base/bum/root...it can be grafted upside down using the same cut...2 for 1 deal...having an aerole would probably be best...opps missed by a second

Edited February 11, 2015 by Dreamwalker.

[Berengar]

So even with no aerole, it will grow eventually?

It should. Sometimes the scion just sits there for months doing absolutely nothing, other times a new pup starts to emerge from the join point of stock and scion within weeks. Try pumping it with crazy amounts of nitrogen and remove peres shoots daily, that should force the scion to grow.

[gr33ntea]

It should. Sometimes the scion just sits there for months doing absolutely nothing, other times a new pup starts to emerge from the join point of stock and scion within weeks. Try pumping it with crazy amounts of nitrogen and remove peres shoots daily, that should force the scion to grow.

Ok then i will try that. Thing is it would take so long for the seedling to grow until i can cut it in a way that both sides have aeroles.

[Dreamwalker.]

yeah & the slow seedlings tend to damp off easily.