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Pereskiopsis ID please

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looks to be the same plant (p. spathulata) with different growing conditions

your first pic looks like ones in my gh and the second pic looks like one i have outside in partial shade.

ps the one outside flowered for me a few yrs ago, after i put it in full sun & baked it for a few months...

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is yours the hairless type Zelly?

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I have two different clones (or species?) of pereskiopsis. One hairy and one bald. The hairy clone gets bigger leaves, glochids, spines, and stocks. This clone grows slower and also seems to take longer to get woody. The bald clone grows smaller stocks, glochids, spines, and leaves. It grows faster and gets woody faster.

Keep in mind these pictures are of plants in the same sized pots, light cycles, soil mixtures, fert/watering cycles, and everything.

Hairy clone

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Bald Clone

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PS: Yours look like the bald clone grown in different conditions.

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is yours the hairless type Zelly?

bald as a beaver , totally hairless, lol

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Outdoor grown Hairy
2 types that are very similar, one just has bigger spines.. the bigger spined one has friendly glochids

when grown under intense flouros... they stick but don't penetrate... they're just as mean on the outdoor grown plants tho

the other you can see just shorter spines but they eventually get about as long on the older growth they just

start out shorter for whatever reason... the shorter spined one in shadier conditions will grow really long thin

leaves... grows more glochids too... in full sun looks almost exactly like the other.. the leaves pretty much shapeshift depending on light and other conditions... all new tips point up unlike the bald which gets whacky over time... the "friendlier"

hairy one tends to go more to oval shaped leaves in shadier conditions, and really thick.. they still confuse me inspite of the differnces and i get them mixed up alot ... they graft about the same tho and both get much thicker than the bald type over time..

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Outdoor grown Bald
Zany growth habit, lots of branching on its own with or without pruning, nasty glochids, smaller leaves... doesn't get as thick as the hairy types.... grafts pretty good and can hold weight.. i agree seems to get a bit woodier faster.. the epidermis is lot lighter green than the hairy types... got them from Zelly

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as for what they are called ... lol

they hairys and the balds

i called one Porterii for a while... in my head
also i've read that Spathulata and Vellutina are synonymous but thats all the help I can offer

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looks to be the same plant (p. spathulata) with different growing conditions

your first pic looks like ones in my gh and the second pic looks like one i have outside in partial shade.

ps the one outside flowered for me a few yrs ago, after i put it in full sun & baked it for a few months...

attachicon.gifpereskiFLRDSC_0193b.jpg

Thank you for your id.

Very informative.

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I have two different clones (or species?) of pereskiopsis. One hairy and one bald. The hairy clone gets bigger leaves, glochids, spines, and stocks. This clone grows slower and also seems to take longer to get woody. The bald clone grows smaller stocks, glochids, spines, and leaves. It grows faster and gets woody faster.

Keep in mind these pictures are of plants in the same sized pots, light cycles, soil mixtures, fert/watering cycles, and everything.

Hairy clone

attachicon.gifpost-12824-0-04289200-1389205553.jpg attachicon.gifpost-12824-0-32822900-1389205576.jpg

Bald Clone

attachicon.gifpost-12824-0-07299500-1389205529.jpg attachicon.gifpost-12824-0-94829100-1389205598.jpg

PS: Yours look like the bald clone grown in different conditions.

Thank you. Really interesting.

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Outdoor grown Hairy

2 types that are very similar, one just has bigger spines.. the bigger spined one has friendly glochids

when grown under intense flouros... they stick but don't penetrate... they're just as mean on the outdoor grown plants tho

the other you can see just shorter spines but they eventually get about as long on the older growth they just

start out shorter for whatever reason... the shorter spined one in shadier conditions will grow really long thin

leaves... grows more glochids too... in full sun looks almost exactly like the other.. the leaves pretty much shapeshift depending on light and other conditions... all new tips point up unlike the bald which gets whacky over time... the "friendlier"

hairy one tends to go more to oval shaped leaves in shadier conditions, and really thick.. they still confuse me inspite of the differnces and i get them mixed up alot ... they graft about the same tho and both get much thicker than the bald type over time..

attachicon.gifDSC04680.JPG attachicon.gifDSC04690.JPG

Outdoor grown Bald

Zany growth habit, lots of branching on its own with or without pruning, nasty glochids, smaller leaves... doesn't get as thick as the hairy types.... grafts pretty good and can hold weight.. i agree seems to get a bit woodier faster.. the epidermis is lot lighter green than the hairy types... got them from Zelly

attachicon.gifDSC04678.JPG attachicon.gifDSC04725.JPG

....

as for what they are called ... lol

they hairys and the balds

i called one Porterii for a while... in my head

also i've read that Spathulata and Vellutina are synonymous but thats all the help I can offer

Thank you for your information!

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