Dreamwalker. Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) so what do they do...do the leafs just get bigger...? & die....shame they have little roots on them...maybe if I treat them like tissue culture...and BAP them? added ..So if the leaf is cut of with a very thin bit of the upper stem (areole ) it should shoot? Edited July 18, 2014 by Dreamwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmattz0r Posted July 18, 2014 When I am removing leaves and creating a pointed tip for impale grafts I will sometimes get the aerole and the leaf together. A few have rooted and produced very skinny and slow growing shoots after lots of time just sitting in the bottom of the pot. Never had just the leaf do anything as hostilis mentioned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) [/url] [/url] 4 winds wha? Edited July 18, 2014 by mutant 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted July 18, 2014 I find the parallel , between us, the tricho scene people and the cacti... as the cacti and succulents evolved to colonise the deserts worlds, the worlds that nobody , few forms of life could ever delve into, and they managed it, and even build a whole ecosystem around them (think of coastal T.chiloensis), so, we similarly seek to find meaning in whatever others, "normal" ones dont appreciate and feel, simple things, like LIVING, y'know we seek to colonize everything and also the fringe , the borderlines and all , I like that with this scene, it can have a great scope 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Cursive Posted July 19, 2014 cact 14 b 060.JPG I LOVE the style of your house! We don't get that here in New Zealand.. :-/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) I LOVE the style of your house! We don't get that here in New Zealand.. :-/ not since the govt/media in collusion with corp interest blamed the craftsmen self builds for the so called leaky hse syndrome & the corp built typical mass produced nz cow shed/crap house & all the back stabbing engineers/building inspectors/ developers...that built & profitted & signed the shit hse's off...................made it illegal for people to actually build their own homes....so now all you can get the ass professionals to build are highly toxic cow sheds...that aren't even solar designed...& leak energy like & old women's bladder...a they bum fuck each other with awards..& people are so proud of them & wonder why their kids are dying of cancer or are autistic...ra ra ra...sorry forgot cactus section...no offence JT............its just the 1 piece of legislation also cost me my livelihood.........& the fuck wit minister who did it forced a tennis ball into his student's mouth......people actually elect these fuck wits..gr gr gr... Edited July 19, 2014 by Dreamwalker 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) thanks JT Edited July 19, 2014 by Dreamwalker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Cursive Posted July 20, 2014 I totally agree mate! I'm lucky enough to live in an area that has 1960-1980's styled housing, where no 2 houses look the same; are orientated differently to one another; and not the same colour. The absolute SHIT that is being built now is a F'n joke! No land, no trees and all pastel neutral colours. F-that! Pisses me off that NZ standards are being dragged down due to BS corporations with fingers in pies; in liaison with the government.Did you build that house yourself? If you have more pictures I would like to see them. I like getting ideas for the future. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) ..you'd be best to do an image or vid search."Alternative houses"..but you can't build anything now. http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=34940 Edited July 21, 2014 by Dreamwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted July 20, 2014 I wish they would grow normal. It would be neat to pass along columns of a plant we knew was once a penis plant. Was genetic testing (or even just flower porn) ever done, actually establishing the clumping TBM as a columnar Trichocereus? Since it never reverts and never flowers its just on faith that we call it a bridgesii, right? Even if it originally grew from a packet marked T. bridgesii, we all know that and $2 will get you a cup of coffee- hell, I once planted a packet of 'T. peruvianus' seed and from that obtained T. macrogonus, T. cuzcoensis, T. peruvianus, T. chiloensis, and Aporocactus flagelliformis! lmao 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) I am not so sure it doesn't flower, at least not yet... I got a biggy one transplanted and attempting to grow it as large as possible... for the second time.... A previous such attempt showed impressively fatty branches, and nice height after transplanting, and then it got partly burnt and scarred by the fire.. so I decided to chop it up after some time... why wouldn't it flower when sufficiently big? there is no such report of penis flowering? Okey the column might have to reach some length before it flowers... but, any of you cacti hybrid pioneers thought about creating a fertilising scheme with the goal in mind of flowering? anyone seen a bud, or what seems like attempts of budding in bridgesii crest mosntrosa? I saw them in my new plants, they failed of course, the plants are ver small, I remember having read about the TCM attempting to bud... maybe nitro or zelly reported it? so it could happen as for if if its really a bridgesii, well what else could it be? Edited July 20, 2014 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) It does resemble bridgesii, which is probably why the label isnt generally questioned. But with its very consistent morphology and no history of reverting to columnar growth is it really unthinkable that it, for instance, could be its own species? Wouldnt it be great to find a partner in the wild and do some breeding Just got to get flowers on them, sacred succulents has a bush thats probably 2 meters tall by now [Porn] and it seems they've never got it to flower. With their penchant for spreading around cool Trich crosses we would have heard about any successful pollination. Edited July 20, 2014 by Auxin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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mutant Posted July 20, 2014 wow yeah I have seen that plant before... I wonder if they kept it or they chopped it... it also seems it might be multible rooted or not even be a single plant to start with ... so, in a sense not a single plant.... TBM does this a lot.... does trout got any info on it? cant not have I am too fcuked up to search now, will do though hey Auxin, I remember you got the hots for bridges - when you did the shit for finding the most cold hardy bridge - I wouldn't count on bridges in cold climates, but I think scop and problably several of other pachanoi and peruvianus strains can do it.... am doing again myself al little bit of outside experimentation... but, back to TBM, if it doesn't flower how can it be a species? the thing is tbm seems to terminate every fuckng branch... but hey I have olnly grown short type.... and some say there are 2 types of TCM also ... so ..... has anyone tried to graft a tbm in a super duper vigourous bridgesii? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dionysus Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) zelly (i think) posted a photo recently with a tbm bud pretty well developed, not sure if it ever bloomed, but there is definitely a possibility. i'll see if i can remember which thread...edit: post #170 on this page http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33701&page=7 . i would'nt mind knowing what ever came of that bud if zelly reads this? Edited July 21, 2014 by dionysus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted July 21, 2014 Speaking of penis, mine is growing as we speak. It looks pretty bridgesii to me. Although I've never seen anyone get a monstrose bridge like this from seed. I have seen some of nitrogen's hybrids mutant seedlings with bridgesii genes that look slightly like TBMC's though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zed240 Posted July 21, 2014 I just figured Zelly was taking the piss with that pic of the penis flower bud. He seems to have a penchant for poking fun. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) zelly (i think) posted a photo recently with a tbm bud pretty well developed, not sure if it ever bloomed, but there is definitely a possibility. i'll see if i can remember which thread... edit: post #170 on this page http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33701&page=7 . i would'nt mind knowing what ever came of that bud if zelly reads this? That was a joke dionysus. Lol. (I think, you never know with that dude) Edited July 21, 2014 by hostilis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dionysus Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) i see that now, i hadn't previously noticed the later posts of yourself questioning him and his response. my dreams are all shattered now. reminds me of when i found out santa wasn't real edit: damn this was my 500th post, what a shit one... haha Edited July 22, 2014 by dionysus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) hey Auxin, I remember you got the hots for bridges - when you did the shit for finding the most cold hardy bridge - I wouldn't count on bridges in cold climates, but I think scop and problably several of other pachanoi and peruvianus strains can do it. Yeah, that hardiness freezer torture thing isnt limited to bridges, I've also done it to pach x bridge, bridge x (peru x terscheckii) and reciprocal, pure pach, etc. and I have a nice fat scop I plan to enter into the mix too. Its a lifelong BDSM cactus orgy, when I'm 85 some young kid can take it over. but, back to TBM, if it doesn't flower how can it be a species? How many years was it no one believed Salvia divinorum flowered, and then when it did the whole world went 'holy shit, the classical flower drawing had the colors backwards!' Fuck, I farm at least two medicinal plants that were regarded as "impossible to grow in cultivation" when I was born. the thing is tbm seems to terminate every fuckng branch... I thought I had let out my discovery there, perhaps not. One day I had a TBM on a pereskiopsis, it had just terminated and was making the penis tip- forming those miniscule not-areoles. I plopped some miracle grow into a 1/6th full jug of water, intending to fill it the rest of the way to make full strength ferts, well I was busy and spaced out and watered that graft with the 600% strength grow ferts, and fuck me with a chain saw if the little bastard didnt start growing more complete areoles and getting taller. Few weeks later it terminated again and I forced it to resume again, got it one more time after that before it pupped. That single 20 cm columnar TBM 'pickle' is now in dirt and sprouting out new pickles around itself. I have not yet manifested the balls to try that trick on a TBM on its own roots. Edited July 21, 2014 by Auxin 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted July 21, 2014 I found a pic of it before I stuck it in dirt, note the 4 bands of areoles 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irabionist Posted July 21, 2014 There are chemicals that induce flowering but has anyone tried it with TBM? There's this whole thread that Dreamwalker started http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37920&hl= I'm going to be fucking with my babies quite a bit this upcoming season 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted August 12, 2014 been wanting to show off this column... and well, i love me a good thread that starts out with: "fuck it" sum sexy pupping/offsetting 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted August 12, 2014 seem like what I call macrogonus peruvianoids, more spiny than not. the last one seems like the true blue version of it... lesser spination, but still itsd not blue enough to be called the true truew blue , pun intended and all. all growing slower than any pachanoid I grew wonder why noone comments on this note.. growth speed... I will transplant a true blue soon for a last 2 month rush, until it becomes cold again.. see how it reacts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) the first one came labeled simply Peruvianus... it was very dark blue with more reddish spines until i put in fuller sun but actually the spines are turning more red again... wish i could find the pics but I do have some from last year my little thingy the 2nd came labeled Macrogonus and the 3rd I can't even remember but I think the guy said PeruxPach hybrid I have to wonder if he just made it up tho cause he wasn't one that liked to give many details Nitrogen commented once on the 3rd one, that it looked like one of his, I think the TPQC? but not sure i'd have to find my nook password lol or if you see this Nitrogen or Zelly what ya think? they all grow pretty fast, the 3rd is in the largest pot.. the tips froze off the top so its grown three new tips about the same size as the pups, all in all its added alot of mass this year, half a season so far... that one doesn't seem to take heat as well as the others... the first really blue one has thickened alot and need a thicker pot too... while the middle ones i've neglected, though I did harvest some tips and have them going in bigger pots.. they are thick but not as spiny for whatever reason, but they are still growing even though its really hot lately .. must be the richer soil mix and the soil staying moist all the time Growth speed simply varies alot even in the same batch of seedlings you'll have some fast and some runts Personally I think Peruvianus can take alot more heat stress than the Pach's but im sure that varies and its just an early observation in a young collection.. One thing i've noticed with all my Peru's is they need like a long season to establish before they take off... then they get thicker and grow faster but also I've only been improving my soil mixes with time... I do have a Pach that looks like an Altmans that has pretty much blown everything else away in terms of growth.. its probably that common monstrose .. it was simply labeled Pachanoi looks like a totem pole all my bigger triches handled several hard freezes, bridge, perus and Pachs.. only a few pc's croaked and lost most of a lumberjack that was still newly rooted but I saved the tip and the little guy is pupping already.. also a cuzcoid fell over and the base rotted but has already grown back into the same sized plant plus a chunk I just stuck in a bed grew some tips... heres the first one at a different time of day. the bluer shots are from before I moved it to brighter sun and plus that bright sun pic is to show off the beautiful spines im telling you this one was bluer than a pair of Levis, like are dark navy blue til it got alot more light but im enjoying the growth and still pretty awesome... im not much of a showoff but felt like this one needed some spotlight eh some planted pups harvest from the 2nd Peru earlier this year have taken off good plastic pots, bigger, mulched, very rich soil, growing just fine more pics of the 3rd one , possible hybrid.. was much greener originally was growing in Arizona where its much hotter... sunburned easy last year on the old growth, however the newer growth is bluer and handles the sun a little better.. still in a somwhat shadier spot tho ... A real pupping machine I was never gonna cut this one and let it flower, then the tips froze over the winter more sexy puppage...skinny tip i rooted started bending sideways the pups started growing around and it the middle finally just broke off the other day This is a fat clone too but I only got skinny tips from it the first year so i put everything bridgesii in the most sunny spot.. some peru's too, changed their color alot and bridgesiis stayed the same color but starting off thicker at least, that little offset is already triple that size pics were about a month ago This one I think resemble Huanucoensis... my fattest plants so far, not the new growth but the log they started from is just fukcing phat, but super thick offset too .. I think its base is 17 or 18 inches around.. Got these from Double Action earlier this year... some of my faves too one is Bridgesii Bernie... already needs a new pot.. was stupid of me to root in that little pot but not the dumbest thing i've done this year eh... the Chilensis is a hot mofo too but taking his sweet time to grow, no roots yet heres the totem pole looking monstrose Pach I suspect its related to that CC plant.. super duper fast growing came to me rooted already and didn't hesitate to start growing right after planting grew about 2 feet last year.. minor damage through some sever freezes and then pupped out of the tip... rib shifter if anything Edited August 13, 2014 by Spine Collector 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
