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Bunnings tricho ID help please?

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Picked up these two little fellows at bunnings - first one labelled as "peruvian torch" - supplier is hamiltons. It doesnt look particularly like a peruvianus to me, and I mistrust their labelling a bit as I bought another one labelled the same which I am pretty sure is a terscheckii...

Any guesses? I know it's hard to say based on a juvenile form... Pach? Scop? Peruvianus? Something else?

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Second one looks much more like a peruvianus to me, unlabelled, supplier is collectors corner (paradisia). Smurf blue colour and golden spines. Beautiful cactus whatever it is anyway. If anyone else thinks it is very likely a peruvianus, I might pick up another one. There was a bigger one, but it had a few wounds and I suspect had beginnings of rot...

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Peruvianus?

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Thanks for your opinions.

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Myrtillocactus geometrizans and Pilosocereus glaucus

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yeah right, it is P. azures

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There were some Mrytillocactus Geometrizans and they looked nothing like either of these.

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Oh and first one is definitely not a Terscheckii! ;) From the thumbnail I was sure it´s Myrtillocactus but the close-up made me doubt it. I rarely see very small Myrtillocacti so it could very well be a Geometrizans but I wasn't able to fully rule out peruvianus either.

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First one is not Tersheckii or Myrtillocactus geometrizans IMO.

It looks similar to a Peruvian, so it wouldnt shock me if its a peru x ?

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Yeah, the more i look at it, the more i think it´s one of these Peruvianus with the big felted Areoles. If it´s the one i think, it becomes a Massive Chunk of a Peruvianus!

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EG, I should have been more specific - here is a photo of the one I bought which was labelled exactly the same "peruvian torch" but I suspect is terscheckii...

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If number one becomes a massive log, I'll go get another! Worth a punt for a measly $7...

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Hi Glaukus, alright got that wrong. That indeed is a Terscheckii or a Pasacana.

First one is probably really a Peruvianus but i definitely see why Prier thought it´s a Myrtillocactus. On the thumbnail, it looks like the spitting image of one. It was my very first impression too, and even with the close-up I was very, very uncertain at first.

If you want to know 100% sure, make a sharp closeup of the Areoles. Then we should know for sure.

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Will do EG, I'll get some close ups in the morning.

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Yeah, the first is M. Geo. The top down shot is definitely the giver. Trichocereus seedlings aren't nearly so angular.

~Michael~

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The first looks like a myrtillocactus to me as well. At the same time it looks kind of like a trichocereus, but like MSSmith said it's very angular unlike trich seedlings.

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Ok. Grafting stock then.

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Whenever somebody posts an ID question, I try to make my guess and then scroll down to see what the consensus is. I'm getting pretty good at it, though I can never remember the scientific names :)

With these plants, I also guessed Myrtillocactus and Pilosocereus. And I'll risk being wrong by maintaining that the first one is in fact a Myrtillo.

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I disagree with the "myrtillocatus geometrizans".

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I disagree with the "myrtillocatus geometrizans".

Would you agree that it's not a Trichocereus?

~Michael~

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I was gonna say I think its possibly a steno or maybe polaskia but im pretty sure theres an occasional tricho

seedling that looks similar for a short time.. Im not ruling out myrtillo myself but it wouldn't be my first guess and

the spination really makes me lean to the peru camp as I have had a young 5 ribber look nearly but not all the way similar..

I can see it easily being possibly a steno or some other columnar plant

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Hi Guys, i might be able to shed some light on this. When he posted the Thread, I asked Glaukus for another pic because i was all OCD because of the Plant. And he was so friendly to send me another closeup. Hope it´s ok for me to post it here. Copyright Owner is Glaukus! ;)

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No problem.

I'm getting better at IDing random cacti I see around. I came across what I first thought was a big scopulicola in someone's front yard but only got a closer look and I've now called it for a stenocereus marginata, so I'll not bother knocking and asking for a cutting.

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That other one is possibly a pasacana. There's been a few of them floating around in recent years. They are one of my favorite species for sure.

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Would you agree that it's not a Trichocereus?

I am pretty sure its not Myrtillocactus, or at least not a geomewtrizans or cochal. I mean look at the areole, the spines, even epidermis colour. No way. Btw I have seen and grown lots of this from seedlings.

This having been said, I am not sure its not a tricho, but indeed its a bit too angular for a tricho. But yeah it could be as it could be some other columnar like a Steno?

PS: new The photo doesn't help much as it doesn't give much detail on the areoles. but it resembles myrti more in close up I have to admit, black central spine and 4-5 radials, but still the areole is too fluffy for what seems a smallish/seedling cactus.

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