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giant puffball thing - Entoloma abortivum?

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I saw these growing under some Moreton Bay figs today and couldn't figure out what they were...

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There were a couple of small ball(-ish)-shaped piece in there, but the rest seemed to be a pretty undifferentiated mass...

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Another clump nearby showed pieces that looked like some kind of outer skin, but the mass was all cracked up and not in the least puffball-shaped, and had nothing that looked like a spore-producing structure...

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Then I remembered finding this under another Moreton Bay fig last winter, and wondered if they are the same thing?

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Does anyone know if it's the same, and if so what is it? Doesn't really look like the pictures of other giant puffballs I've seen. :scratchhead:

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Saw these again & thought I'd have another go at getting an ID - any thoughts? Last pic shows the underside - again, no clear structures, just a small root-like bit in the middle, like a puffball would.

I've gone back a few days later & still not seen any obvious spore-producing bits, they just go a bit yellow with age - don't most puffballs usually turn into a big spore mass when they mature? These things freak me out a little!

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Entoloma abortivum comes to mind...

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Interesting! Never heard of these guys before - thankyou, you're a wealth of knowledge sir! :worship:

They do look a lot like this picture from the Shroomery (most other pics show a more rounded, popcorny form):

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However I've never seen any of the unaborted forms, or the Armillaria that are supposed to grow with them - just the popcorn-thing, nothing else visible nearby. Nearest I've seen are some Lepista & Ileodictyon, both ~10m away. I wonder if the Entolomas could form a similar relationship with a microscopic fungus?

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Unfortunately I don't know much about them. It's possible it's some other kind of parasite, which isn't so picky about the host, or it could even be a viral infection. But it surely looks really weird.

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