Acacia I.D Mid north coast nsw

[goinpiggn420]

Gday everyone i went for a bush walk yesterday and have some photos that i need some help with to identify if they are acacias and what kind
Thanks to anyone that can help me identify these

Edited November 25, 2013 by goinpiggn420

[goinpiggn420]

[tarenna]

Welcome. Do you hunt with hounds?

[goinpiggn420]

[goinpiggn420]

Welcome. Do you hunt with hounds?

i do take my hounds hunting lol but not while i am bush walking i have properties in north west nsw that i go pigging on if thats what your talking about

[goinpiggn420]

can anyone help

[tarenna]

Shot - 1458690_1413742092194041_1175349487_n.jpg is Melaleuca quinquenervia

[goinpiggn420]

thanks for the reply i looked up that but i couldnt find any pics with the brown seed pods

[IndianDreaming]

Hi GP420 - There's quite a few good resources on the net for acacia id - World Wide Wattle is one. And if you're into books then grab something like Costerman's field guide.

For a good id it pays to know your exact location and then learn what are the most common acacia's in your area - that narrows it down from a few 1000 to a few hundred. Then you want to find out the defining characteristics of the plant. Does it have a gland? Where is the gland located? Does it have opposing leaves, how many veins, does the leaf curl, is the leaf thin or fat, shiny or dull, does it have hairs? Are the branches grey or brown or red barked, are the flowers in spikes or are they little blobs, how many flowers are there and from which part of the plant do they grow, the petiole? one on a leaf, 2? Are they leaves?

It's actually quite fun to really get in there and examine each part of the plant and rule out one by one - eventually you're left with just a couple that match what you're looking at. The glossary of a plant book or an online botanical glossary is your best friend when it comes to acacia id's - you need to know what a petiole, axil, funicle etc are...

Pick an acacia from World Wide Wattle and then read up on each word - eventually you can see they're saying things like: Its got a long leaf on a stem that has straight flowers growing out where the 3 veined leaf joins the stem - whallah.

If you ask the forum: There's an acacia near me, I think it's X because it has a gland, is glabrous, with a short axil, the flowers are spiked and sessile and the seed has a funnicle in a curled pod - you'll get an instant answer

Edit: Here's a head start - probably best to choose an acacia then look up the words rather than learn all the words, you'll only need 10 or so words to effectively read the acacia descriptions. http://eflora.library.usyd.edu.au/glossary

Edited November 25, 2013 by IndianDreaming

[goinpiggn420]

thanks mate i will have a good look into worldwide wattle and see if i can narrow it down abit and ill upload some better pics with more info on the trees

[IndianDreaming]

Sweet - See if you can get phyllode, gland, seed, seed casing, axil, bark - any defining characteristics. If you're interested in growing some acacias I could probably spare a few seeds to get you started?

[goinpiggn420]

hi everyone i have been out for a nice drive today in the mountains and have come across a acacia i think could be obtusfolia they are situated in one area only that i could find that is at an altitude of 310.69m from what i can see phyllodes have mainly 2-3 primary veins and are linear to narrowly elliptic, phyllodes have red resins on sides i could not find any seed pods, glan is about 8-9mm from bottom of petiole, pulvinus is present, these plants where found on rocky ridgeline and way out of harms way and peoples vision, i have only just started trying to identify these plants so go easy with me whatever they may be they are sure a beautiful plant and deserve to be treated right

[goinpiggn420]

hi everyone i have been out for a nice drive today in the mountains and have come across a acacia i think could be obtusfolia they are situated in one area only that i could find that is at an altitude of 310.69m from what i can see phyllodes have mainly 2-3 primary veins and are linear to narrowly elliptic, phyllodes have red resins on sides i could not find any seed pods, glan is about 8-9mm from bottom of petiole, pulvinus is present, these plants where found on rocky ridgeline and way out of harms way and peoples vision, i have only just started trying to identify these plants so go easy with me whatever they may be they are sure a beautiful plant and deserve to be treated right

[goinpiggn420]

[IndianDreaming]

Awesome description m8 - looks like an Obtusifolia to me. The flowers in your picture seem to be 4-merous, the veins sparingly anastomosing, visible and leathery looking. I guess the seeds/pods are the only thing left to really check when they form. The size and shape of the seed, pod and funicle can be seen below.