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ID for this fatty?

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Hi Guys

Wonder if you could give me an ID for this prickly fellow. Originally thought it was terscheckii, but it doesn't look anything like the seed grown terscheckii I have - it's spines are much more robust.

Cheers :)

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Hi Bit, ts definately from the Terscheckii/Pasacana/Werdermannianus Group. It reminds me a lot about the werdermannianus i had but since this name is kinda numen nudum, its actually irrevelant cause most of these Plants cant really be ID´d correctly if they dont come in their mature stage including flowers. There are so many Varieties.

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I'm with eg about the variety in these sorts of plants, and get mightily confused by the group, but I'm a little more inclined to thinking T. werdermannianus falls in with T. tacaquerensis/taquimbalensis.

~Michael~

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I think it looks most like a Candicans, but that's partially based off my own potentially mis-IDed juvenile plants. :P

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I think it looks most like a Candicans, but that's partially based off my own potentially mis-IDed juvenile plants. :P

Are those from the seedlings I had a heap of? would be interested to see what they turned out like if so.

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I still have those guys :P I'll take a photo right now of some plants.
But they actually came from a small-scale supplier to certain NZ gardening stores, who had relatives travel to South America and collect seed.

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Plants from centipede


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What I think is a Candicans


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What could also be a Candicans


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A Chiloensis for good meash


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A Werdermannius


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A Taquimbalensis (many of the spines were clipped off to allow it to be moved in a sedan)



In light of the spine color, I don't think bit's plant is archetypal Taq or Werd as the new growth is yellow coloured spines, not red coloured. But it does look fairly unique, which I suppose can be expected from how rare these plants tend to be.


T. chilensis (Colla) Br. & R. (2)
Bo. columnar, branching from the base, to over 3 m h.; branches numerous, stout; Ri. to 16-17, low, broad, tuberculate; Rsp. 8—12, to 4cm long.; Csp. 1, short, to 4—7(—12) cm long.; Sp. amber at first, or blackish, tobacco-brown or intermediate shades, later whitish-grey, often darker-tipped; Fl. to 14cm long., concolorous white; Sep. reddish or brownish-white; Sti. cream; Fr. spherical.—Chile (Prov. Atacama to Prov. Curico, with a distribution measuring 600 km from N. to S.).

:( My new growth spines on the Chiloensis are actually greenish-yellow (the brown is an aging effect). So it's quite possibly another Knize cuzco mutt! >_<

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