Gimli Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) Bum graft of the Rosei #1 x Scop above.. both appear to have taken. Been told it might take longer for an upside down graft to take off? Did these 2 on 1/3/18 - now firm and pupping Potted up some grafting stock for next season (Middle and right trays). Mostly pach, some cuzco. Tersch x Tersch -> bridgesii, done tonight, 1/4/18. Playing around with this method as I seem to be failing with tricho <-> pere. I'll come back to it sometime. Hopefully I can get away with no humidity for these I have 9 lophs which have taken. Might be chump change compared to the hundreds some members have but I'm super happy Thanks to all who've posted their experiences and tips on this forum - true treasure trove! <3 Edited April 1, 2018 by Gimli 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted May 12, 2018 Rosei 1 x Scop Tersch x Tersch Rosei 1 x Rosei 2 Rosei 2 x Rosei 1 A few I did as learning grafts to work out what does and doesn't work. Got a little TBM segment grafted and now fattened up. Spring can't come fast enough 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted May 16, 2018 Here is a 1 month old graft for you. and a larger sibling also done at the same time. But why graft such large specimens if this will suffice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 1, 2018 Rosei 1 x Rosei 2 Rosei 1 x Scop Powering along in winter Terscheckii. Can't wait to see this in 6 months or so 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 3, 2018 Leftover slither of lophophora williamsii which has 2 areoles, done upside down. Not too worried if it fails but hopefully it pulls thru 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted August 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Gimli said: Leftover slither of lophophora williamsii which has 2 areoles, done upside down. Not too worried if it fails but hopefully it pulls thru This is a little larger than what I normally give instructions for with grafts using parafilm and while it is possible to do... I definitely recommend poking some holes in this one day 2. Day 3 poke some more holes and so on. By day 5, you should be cutting the edges of the parafilm away from the stock thus beveling the stock just a bit more. This should allow a lot more air to circulate and keep this one from getting infected as specimens this size are a bit more temperamental with parafilm. I've done them and so can you. You just need to pay extreme attention to how this one is going each day and adjust fire accordingly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) Got a little bored and decided to take a knife to one of my astros I present to you... Rock Art Graft Tek edit: probably a little on the heavy side but eh The upside down bit I just used a stocking Edited August 4, 2018 by Gimli 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gimli said: Got a little bored and decided to take a knife to one of my astros I present to you... Rock Art Graft Tek edit: probably a little on the heavy side but eh The upside down bit I just used a stocking I've used both of these methods myself as well. Unlike parafilm, you won't have to worry about too much humidity with grafts this size exposed to so much open air. The opposite though is often true. Meaning you may have to contend with scions drying up faster than you might like. This presents more of a problem if there is a bit of tissue that has an air bubble that has managed to get into the graft union or worse... a bit of tissue that has not seated properly at all. This is why with grafts this size I frequently use self-adhesive coban or another material to draw down the sides and ensure I have good seating all the way around. Enough of my rambling, I love the fact that @Gimli your showing different grafting techniques. Each one with its own distinct advantages and disadvantages. Something you learn best by becoming proficient at them all. I'll look forward to updates from you on these grafts. And one quick question... is that one graft I thought was parafilm... cling wrap or parafilm? If parafilm, you sure as heck got a big sheet of that one to work with or at least it looks that way from my perspective which of course could be wrong. Edited August 4, 2018 by Inyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Inyan said: I've used both of these methods myself as well. Unlike parafilm, you won't have to worry about too much humidity with grafts this size exposed to so much open air. The opposite though is often true. Meaning you may have to contend with scions drying up faster than you might like. This presents more of a problem if there is a bit of tissue that has an air bubble that has managed to get into the graft union or worse... a bit of tissue that has not seated properly at all. This is why with grafts this size I frequently use self-adhesive coban or another material to draw down the sides and ensure I have good seating all the way around. Enough of my rambling, I love the fact that @Gimli your showing different grafting techniques. Each one with its own distinct advantages and disadvantages. Something you learn best by becoming proficient at them all. I'll look forward to updates from you on these grafts. And one quick question... is that one graft I thought was parafilm... cling wrap or parafilm? If parafilm, you sure as heck got a big sheet of that one to work with or at least it looks that way from my perspective which of course could be wrong. It's parafilm. The 2" wide stuff. I only stretched the bit that would cover the scion and top of stock. The rest is unstretched. Still playing around and getting used to it. Hopefully do some pere stuff in a month or so. Played around with adhesive stuff a little bit a few months back and wasn't a huge fan, especially when removing it. Maybe I'll try again for upcoming bigger scions (TBM etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 19, 2018 3 upside down bits I did. Still firm, especially the middle one 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 26, 2018 TPC x Juuls Sharxx Blue x TPM 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 6:34 AM, Gimli said: 3 upside down bits I did. Still firm, especially the middle one Very good work here. You appear to have listened to your grafts well as they stock has healed up very nicely. That first one is especially nice. Now to hurry up and wait for it to do something for us. jourdaniana varietal mam ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 27, 2018 Healing nicely Stock is a seedling. Scion too big you think @Inyan ? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeanGreen Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Nice thread guys, here's a little timelapse on some seedling grafts I did back in early April. CJ x Sharxx and Clyde x Chalaensis. May 27th: June 27th July 26th (CJ x Sharxx on the far right & Clyde x Chalaensis far left, Rosei 1 x Scop in the middle x2) August 13th The slight variegation on those CJ x Sharxx seedlings is more apparent in this pic August 27th (Clyde x Chalaensis at the back) And here's a tray of grafts I did last week, lots of albino/variegates from Zelly's VRG crosses, will post some updates Edited August 27, 2018 by MeanGreen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Gimli said: Healing nicely Stock is a seedling. Scion too big you think @Inyan ? If I'm picking on you its usually because I think you have excellent talent and or ingenuity. In your case, I see a bit of both. You've got some excellent healing showing on many of your grafts which shows me that either you A.... used parafilm B... had excellent humidity... or C... a little of both. With that being said, parafilm is not without its faults. No method is perfect, but you have done well with the grafts I've seen and that tells me you listen to what your grafts are telling you. I.e. you pay attention to whats going on. Two thumbs up @Gimli. Edited August 27, 2018 by Inyan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 28, 2018 Like I was saying to someone last week, what works for me might not work for someone else I just throw grafts in my bathroom and they do okay! I've been looking at setting up another indoor tent with climate controls but that's probably a next year thing now. I've run out of stock and scions for the time being anyway LOL 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) LWC Another TPC x Juuls Dawsons Pasacana x Short Spine Psycho0 x Red Huasca Unions looking good, Scions still a little soft but I have a good feeling, especially since I've already weeded out the failed ones. Edit: sometimes I bevel trich scions, sometimes I don't. Don't ask why, its just a feel lol Edited August 28, 2018 by Gimli 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inyan Posted August 28, 2018 Natural environment certainly can help or hinder depending on humidity and the like. One thing is for certain though, your grafts look very nice and are a testament to the fact that anyone can learn to graft which is exactly what I have been saying from the beginning. 5 to 105, so long as they are willing to try and have hands that are stable enough to guide them through the actions of grafting... anyone can graft. With that being said, I'm still learning from my grafts. That is especially true when I change up variables and try something new. Even something as simple as grafting to a woody specimen versus a nice young specimen can teach you things about grafting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrownDog Posted September 20, 2018 My successes from my first attempt ... 4 of 6 took: (SS01 x SS02) x VRG Zelly 7 x Zelly 5 Zelly 7 x Zelly 5 LW I can see now that this might become a problem.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted September 23, 2018 Second LW fruit for the season. Another Jourd. Probably one for giveaway at the next meet 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted November 12, 2018 These scions came from a weird little crest. I removed this bit as it was starting to grow into the ground, rooted it and then grafted it on. Hopefully goes funky again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil Pup Posted November 25, 2018 First successful graft! It was originally 10mm tall when grafted. Now pushing 30ish mm in height T.Pach Fields 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted December 4, 2018 On 19/08/2018 at 6:34 PM, Gimli said: 3 upside down bits I did. Still firm, especially the middle one On 23/09/2018 at 9:18 PM, Gimli said: Another Jourd. Probably one for giveaway at the next meet On 12/11/2018 at 7:55 PM, Gimli said: These scions came from a weird little crest. I removed this bit as it was starting to grow into the ground, rooted it and then grafted it on. Hopefully goes funky again On 28/08/2018 at 4:11 PM, Gimli said: Another TPC x Juuls Wind smashed some grafted jourds so had to re-do them. Only had spach laying around Another jourd I did earlier this year, feb/march slowly chugging along TBMC. Not my graft but excited to have it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted January 6, 2019 Jourdaniana loving this heat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gimli Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 1 of 2 small TPC x Juuls slab Edited January 6, 2019 by Gimli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
