slice Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) I was looking for info about lumberjack and came across this : "JRL: Here is the origin of the super hero know as 'lumberjack" It never ceases to amaze me that my little joke has become common parlance in the ethnobot underground. I went out to this bill collectors office in Rancho Cordova, CA to give up some blood money. Leaving I saw a big Lumberjack building supply store. I was fairly new at growing cacti, I think I was still looking for my first peruvianus, I probably just had a few pachanois and maybe my first WOH which was sold as a peruvianus, but really looks nothing like one. I go out to the garden area and spot what looked to me like a pachanoi but with wicked big spines. It was in a large plastic pot , had several columns about 3 ft high. I think I paid about $45 for it. As I learned more, I saw that it appears to be a peruvianus/bridgessi cross. Like a fat bridg or a peruvianus with less spines per pad. It's a fast grower, but doesn't seem to grow as tall as a pachanoi. It flowers occasionally, and once I got it to cross with a pachanoi. Sometimes the new growth has a beautiful blue color that love. When I started trading it I gave it a fake latin name, "lumberjackius", which people soon shortened to "lumberjackus" and then "lumberjack" " This was extracted from here: http://www.spiritpla...pic=4202.5;wap2 EDITED BY MODERATOR. NO DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENCY Edited December 12, 2012 by Evil Genius 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stillman Posted December 11, 2012 love these origin stories 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted December 12, 2012 I'm a huge fan of this plant and would agree with it being a likely cross between T. pachanoi and T. bridgesii. Here's my Lumberjack... ~Michael~ 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted December 12, 2012 Nice pic MS! One of my favorite varieties also - I'm guessing bridgessi/peruvianus hybrid too.. Here's a few of mine - different years and different conditions - first pic you can see the spirit in the plant ;) 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halcyon Daze Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I want to be careful how I word this but I think I read somewhere that it became a little over-hyped due to the first few cuts being so thick and heavy per foot. ie each foot simply had a greater volume, a result of it being an older more mature mother plant with thicker stems. I've heard the same theory put forward for Eileen too. Younger cuts are obviously thinner and have less flesh per foot. That being said it is still a beautiful cactus and up there with the best. There were some awesome lumberjack crosses being sold very recently. I think there will be quite a few of these little fellas getting around in the not too distant future. Edited December 12, 2012 by Halcyon Daze 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slice Posted December 12, 2012 Im impatient waiting the arrival of the seed I got from zelly. LumberjackxJuuls sounds very nice... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted December 12, 2012 That's interesting - I had not heard that about the thick cuts and over-hyping and so forth.. But I have heard very little actual info about the spirit of the plant in general - lack of data is what it amounts to.. I don't recall v. Lumberjackus ever being sold or traded en masse - here and there people have propagated it and sold/traded/gifted it - but there was never a large motherplant like Eileen - certainly never cuttings as thick as Ed's Eileen.. It is not particularly widespread in general either from what I understand.. If it is allowed to grow big enough though it looks like it would get thick - the new pups on my Lumberjackus are generally thicker than the new ones on my Eileen, and we saw how thick Eileen can get.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I'm a huge fan of this plant and would agree with it being a likely cross between T. pachanoi and T. bridgesii. I'm guessing bridgessi/peruvianus hybrid too.. The reason Ed's eileen is so massive is because its been allowed to reach full maturity by being planted in the ground. There is just absolutely no way any columnar cacti can reach its fullest attainable girth planted in a pot. Every one of the pot planted plants that were planted in the ground are now achieving much fatter girths as they get taller. The new pups that emerge are much fatter as well. EDITED BY EG! SORRY, NO MESCALINE CONTAINERS ALLOWED HERE. Edited December 14, 2012 by Evil Genius 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Hi Guys, just wanted to mention that i will also edit or delete posts that hide potency discussions within weight data and such. I will leave the thread as it is for now but will take out everything weight related (including the stuff in the earlier posts) if the thread is going any more into that direction. bye Eg Edited December 12, 2012 by Evil Genius 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted December 12, 2012 Halycyon Daze, the variety with the very fat cuts that went around might have been the T. "huarazensis" - I got a couple of those and they are indeed massive.. It grows fat in general, much more so than either Lumberjackus or Eileen.. It's a pachanoi type though - looks nothing like the lumberjackus... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slice Posted December 13, 2012 Nice plants! Anyone growing the hybrid Lumberjack x Juuls ? We can probably expect a fatter plant and shorter spines I suppose.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted December 13, 2012 lumberjack on the left, colossus on the right. jack has a girth of around 40 cm excluding the spines lumberjack branch pup colossus pup 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted December 14, 2012 Nice - that is a fat one you got there! BTW, the pics I posted are all of the same plant in the same pot - just at different locations and different times - it changes its appearance quite readily based on environment.. All trichos do, but I notice it quite dramatically with the Lumberjackus.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookahhead Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Seeds sown October 9, 2012 Edited December 14, 2012 by hookahhead 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogfrog Posted February 27, 2013 lumberjack on the left, colossus on the right. jack has a girth of around 40 cm excluding the spines Ljack_ColossusDSC_0302.jpg lumberjack branch pup LjackDSC_0299.jpg colossus pup cpupDSC_0297.jpg Holey moley, have you created any hybrids with the colossus Zelly? that is one incredible looking cactus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) yeah I've craved a Colossus ever since I saw the first pic of one and theres only one pic I can remember...This is the first i'm seeing that anyone actually has one!Freaking beautiful Meanwhile ,here's my best graft of Validus x LJ.... I've got some more LJ crossed seedlings i'll show off when they get bigger This is my first graft I had to move cause he actually grew too tall reaching for the light! Edited February 28, 2013 by Spine Collector 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted March 1, 2013 Holey moley, have you created any hybrids with the colossus Zelly? nope, no flowers yet. got my fingers crossed she'll flower this yr, certainly mature enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted March 2, 2013 Here's some more Lumberjack pics....... This last pic is of another Lumberjack plant I have with 2 smaller pups.....a perfect size for shipping world wide.... The smaller pup on the right is 10 x 4 cm. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted March 2, 2013 I want to lay in a bed of lumberjackiouses have you ever considered crossing with your ss02/ss01 cross? I think that would be interesting 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted March 2, 2013 Here's some more pics of the lumberjack & colossus Just barely visible, Lumberjack far left, T pach 'Kimnach' center left & 2 stems of colossus on the right taller one is 8' one of two pups.....it's only 15 cm long but look how fat it is 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slice Posted March 11, 2013 colossusxjuuls colossusxkimnach colossusxjack both ways we want 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookahhead Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/uploads_gallery/gallery/album_622/med_gallery_11911_622_2053001.jpg Edited December 12, 2013 by hookahhead 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
