GoOnThen Posted July 13, 2013 All of my seeds were sown some time ago but I haven't grafted any as yet as they are some what stunted due to my lack of attention. Once they have started growing again I will start grafting but I cant see me having any available to trade for at least three months or so. Cheers Got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irabionist Posted July 13, 2013 So jealous I missed out on these seeds and just all these beautiful freaks! So much cactus porn going on right now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted July 13, 2013 All good GOT I got some things here to start gettin out to some fellow W.A. Sabers gotta get more organized and start grafting some stuff though we'll definately have to sort some trades out when we're both ready though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted July 14, 2013 Yah thanks again for the kind words - really glad to have stoked so many people out! I'll post some pics of a few of mine here in a bit - def seeing some really weird stuff - can only guess what they will be as adults! I see monstrose types, crested types, monstrose-crest mixed types, and then quite a few "WTF" types - the latter just look bizarre, like they are growing with no particular organizing principle - hide the children!! Sadly my environment is changing for the worse in terms of growing these species - most of my cacti were at a relatives house growing in full sun - they have to sell the house and so I'm going to have to bring my specimens over to my apartment next week, which unfortunately gets almost no direct sun on its little balcony. Quite a few will go to local friends though, for long-term babysitting till I re-situate. This batch of freaks however, wish I had more space to grow them all out - I'm quite attached to each of the little buggers.. The newly grafted ones though don't need much direct light, and may even do ok indoors - I have a skylight and a bright apartment in general - wouldn't be much direct light but certainly very bright.. Anyways, it's good motivator for me to work hard and get a house w a yard. Was hoping for more TPM and TPC flowers this year but I see no buds as of yet - I think I've been hitting them all too hard with the 20-20-20 fertilizer - they have been growing robustly and maybe aren't in flowering mode.. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted July 15, 2013 Sounds like u need to invest in a 400w hps. just jokes, but for real u could set up flouros for the young ones. All mine are growing under 2x 24w energy saver spiral flouro globes. 48w of energy over 600 x 400 mm plastic tub. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted July 15, 2013 Thats how I phased out my 400w, I made a modular dual array 8 bulb hanging daylight CFL light with reflectors all out of scrap metal, wire from broken appliances, and salvaged light fixtures. I can optionally break it down to make two free standing light bars on scrap metal legs. Be creative (and have a fire extinguisher near by ) What, and how much, were you feeding them in the month before they flowered? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted July 16, 2013 Lol yea I don't think I have it in me right now to start up a serious fluoro situation.. Back when they flowered I hadn't been fertilizing them much at all, except for those organic plant food type products which I had used sparingly.. I have notice that when they get rootbound or stressed from lack of nutes they seem to flower.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted July 16, 2013 thats just it, it's hardly serious, it's a little tub in the corner of a room or on a shelf with 1 or 2 flouro's in it, costs less that $30 to set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mushroomman Posted July 18, 2013 In having the same problem in the unit I have just moved into all my large cacti have gone to my dads, and all my seedlings and grafts are now in a grow box with 2 4ft and 2 2ft fluros but some of the grafts are growing a little elongated. I am going to invest it a 250w hps or mh to put my larger grafts under and to get a heap of pereskiopsis going 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
modernshaman Posted July 19, 2013 I have grafted 1 of each cross I had and had a crest with TPM x N1 however I lost it to black rot. The other crosses have yet to go crazy but look amazing so far. I have a little of each mutant with TPQC x TPM (monstrose, crested, monstrose/crest, regular columnar, and one that is completely unorganized) These are all TPQC x TPM This was a small section from one of the two first photos. It looked like a Trichocereus santiaguensis mostruosa or T. bridgesii crest that was spineless at first. I removed it as it was a bottom section that didn't seem to be growing unlike the columnar sections. I believed it would have reverted or just not have grown but continues to grow similar to a bridgesii crest IMO. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) so I performed 18 grafts of 4 differerent crosses I received seeds of, and they're looking good at about 2.5 weeks 11 have pumped real nice, 2 others are starting to show fuzzy tops, and so I guess the other 5 are hanging out for a bit... only one so far looks a little wierd its a TPQCxTPM... the others are PsychoxTPM, (ss02xPach)xTPM, and TPCx Juuls,ss02, ss02/pach... Im certain a few more will pump up.. I had a couple of grafts that didn't grow for 4 and 5 months and just suddenly took off.. quite a few others took 2 and 3 months but as i've improved they pump faster and faster.. the funny thing is I used 3 different pereskie clones and the 5 that haven't pumped are all on that one type so I may need to adjust how I graft on those this was 3 days ago, and wow I just peeked, the bubbly tops have done some serious growing anyways.. super rewarding I love this stuffs, I don't know if I can ever stop eheh***btw they mostly all sprouted... I'm gonna graft a few more with the clothespin method i've been having nearly perfect success with .. I do recall one looked like it had 3 ears instead of two but I couldn't tell if it was just growing faster or if it started out as a triangled head... also I had alot more of the TPQCxTPM and 1/5 of them are tiny little skinny dark green runts that i've got my eye on... realized one was upside down the other day and had to flip a cactus Edited July 26, 2013 by Spine Collector 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixSon Posted July 26, 2013 amazing grafts modershaman amazing variety of monstrose habits there, nitrogens mutant seeds, these genetics are perfect! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watertrade Posted August 1, 2013 I started a little later than most other people but grafted lots of (SS02 x pachanoi) x TPM and left the others as seedlings. Hoping to get a few nice mutants, 'trophy plants' to parade around with pride.... And so far I haven't seen any more normal looking grafted trichocereus. Pure unadulterated symmetrical forms of normal ness... Its not a complaint, I just want to join in the fun! I remember stalking a member here and finally persuading them to sell me a nice big 4 ribbed bridgesii.... As soon as I got it, it popped a 5th rib and has done so ever since.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogfrog Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Just you wait, they all look normal for ages then suddenly bam you start spotting the oddness It usually begins with a rib-change here, a missing areole there and then things start getting interesting. This lil guy at the front centre has to be my favourite. I've been watching it get cooler and cooler. Can't wait to see it at the end of summer :D Edit: oh and look out for them sprouting little pups, i have seen this trait in almost all of these crosses. I have seen lots of little 2-3cm tall seedlings with two little arms coming out either side. So cute and dinky. Edited August 2, 2013 by bogfrog 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookahhead Posted August 3, 2013 This is that weird ball I posted earlier. It is now showing normal growth, and the spines at the tip look like psycho0/bridgesii. I am attempting to graft a pup that is almost identical to the remaining one on the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted August 4, 2013 PEEPS, U NEED TO GO TO "MY COMPUTER" RIGHT CLICK ON THE THUMBNAIL OF THESE PICS IN THEIR FOLDER, THEN SELECT EITHER ROTATE CLOCKWISE OR ROTATE ANTI CLOCKWISE, WHICH EVER U NEED. tHEN THESE PHOTO'S WILL COME OUT CORRECT. IT TOOK ME AGES TO FIGURE THIS OUT. iT DOESN'T WORK IF U GO INTO THE PIC AND TRY AND ROTATE IT TO CORRECT ORIENTATION THEN, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR SUM REASON. iT ONLY WORKS IF U RIGHT CLICK THUMBNAIL AND ROTATE THAT. pEACE nAJA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookahhead Posted August 4, 2013 Peeps you need to not use caps when you speak on the internet. None of the original pictures are turned on my computed. I have no idea why they turned on upload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted August 4, 2013 hey hookahead, sry I wasn't shouting at you, I was ensuring people actually read it, as I regularly scan over text when I am looking for pics. And yes, I understand hookahead, i looks fine on ur my computer, but if u ask it to rotate, in your case clockwise and then upload them it will be orientated correctly. I can guess that u took that photo with an iphone right? once again ,sry it wasn't shouting ,but more exclaiming. maybe a bold text with larger font may have been more appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Optimystic Posted August 4, 2013 A regular haunted house you've got there! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 4, 2013 I like the polycephalic pseudo-cristata looking ones, its almost like theyre working toward a crest equivalent to the clumping TBM. That would be just dripping with awesomeness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrogen Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Naja Naja man those are badass! This is that weird ball I posted earlier. It is now showing normal growth, and the spines at the tip look like psycho0/bridgesii. I am attempting to graft a pup that is almost identical to the remaining one on the left. IMG_4033.JPGIMG_4062.JPG Hookahead - It may go back to monstrose growth after a bit - the mother plant, this TPM, goes in and out of mutant growth - check a recent pic - it's put out 4 base columns that are/were growing normally, though one is now starting to go weird again (which you can't see because it started doing so after this pic was taken).. So, these seedlings that start out normal or revert to normal can easily get weird again if they take after momma.. Hookahead yours actually looks like what the motherplant TPM did - look at the base of the TPM and you can see it was just a ball that terminated, and from that came a column that grew normally for a few inches before getting wierd - and check below that my TPM x SS02 v "Aldous" which is a crested freak - this seedling put out a beautiful normal column which is now going quite monstrose. Edited August 7, 2013 by nitrogen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djmattz0r Posted August 18, 2013 Such amazing seedlings!! I finally get access to this forum and find out all the awesome things I have been missing out on!! Amazing crosses and subsequent seedlings nitrogen and everyone who sowed/grafted them I can only hope to find something like these down the line... <fingers crossed for plentiful future flowers> If anyone stateside has some seedlings or spare seeds they never got around to sowing, I am a huge mutant fan and would love to help get some of these unique genetics propagated. Can trade or purchase, just shoot me a PM. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted August 25, 2013 Nice spread That first one looks quite a bit like the TPM (peruvianus monstrose) in post 1, last TPM pic especially. A few more spines on yours but yours is much younger and not under the sun. Has anyone noticed the spination on the TPM? Heres a good spine pic... Three spines, downward pointing long one, shorter upwards, none can really be called a central. Not quite the definition of a peruvianus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
