Stillman Posted September 15, 2011 So I have procured a nice Tagetes lucida specimen. Has anyone got much experience growing this interesting herb, I have only started doing a little research on it but has been used extensively in mexican spiritual ceremonies in combination with other plants. Its also an excellent hangover cure and apparently a natural anti depressant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justler Posted September 15, 2011 I've only purchased some seeds recently, but definitely something I'll be investigating in the future as well. The following is an extract from herbalistics.. "Traditionally smoked by the Huichol Indians of Mexico either with Nicotiana rustica or alone to induce visions. It is still used today as an incense in Mexico. Also called Yuauhtli, Tumutsali or Pericon. Tagetes lucida contains salvinorin-like substances whose structures have not yet been fully clarified (Ratsch, 1998)." Sounds quite interesting. I'd also love to hear about anyone's experiences with this plant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stillman Posted September 15, 2011 From what I have read the drying process can destroy alot of the potency so the key I think is subtle quick drying, I think a strong tea of this in conjuncture with smoking this and maybe a blend of Tagetes minutus? spelling ( stinking roger plant). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Peddler Posted September 15, 2011 yeah i was reading about that the other day. Certainly interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stillman Posted September 15, 2011 After reading some more Tagete lucida most beneficial use may be with nausea and as a calmative during peyote/ san pedro ceremonies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) I grow one from the SS Peru field trip. Not sure if its lucida though. I have planted it out in my garden and it grew huge but i am not sure it would take frost in winter. Anyone know how cold hardy they are? bye Eg Edited September 15, 2011 by Evil Genius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted September 15, 2011 Nice plant,leaves tastes like a mild licorice [anise], so more for cooking food. The one i grew was just a type of weed 2 feet tall at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paradoxical Posted October 3, 2011 I have just started to grow this herb. I initially had a few problems getting good viable seed, but have over come that now. Tagets lucida apparently synergises with Cannabis and tobacco. I have done a little bit of reading on this and discovered why this might be. Among other things T.lucida contains Methyl chavicol (AKA estragole). What I can conclude is that methyl chavicol is inactivated by the cytochrome P450’s – CYP1A2 AND CYP2A6. Apparently nicotine and cannabis both inhibit CYP2A6, therefore maybe allowing stronger effects of this herb. German Chamomile (Matricaria recutita) inhibits CYP1A2. I got this info from here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23400#ixzz1Zg2XSn2O Combination of tagtes and these might be the most interesting way to approach this herb. Also apparently the herb is only active fresh. I haven’t tried this yet as my plants are still rather small, but I will and get back to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted October 3, 2011 I grow one from the SS Peru field trip which one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelema Posted October 4, 2011 i smoked an 8x acetone extract of this plant once and it nearly killed me i could hardly breathe for about 40mins. I remember there being some speculation that a drink of this was given prior to human sacrifices, so, you know, it might not be that great to experiment with. I certainly never did again - although I probably should have eaten a whole bunch raw to test that raw-only theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted October 4, 2011 I remember there being some speculation that a drink of this was given prior to human sacrifices Aztecs blew the powdered herb in the faces of sacrificial victims! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted October 6, 2011 Aztecs blew the powdered herb in the faces of sacrificial victims! So give it a try. I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted October 6, 2011 Aztecs blew the powdered herb in the faces of sacrificial victims! The plant is still known as 'Flor de los muertos' I believe. Evil Genius: the plant tends to die in winter but come back in Spring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Look who´s here. How´s it going? Long time no see. Hope all is fine. Edited October 6, 2011 by Evil Genius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted October 6, 2011 So give it a try.I have. You blew powdered narcotic plant material in somebody's face and then ripped out their heart atop a scared sacrificial temple? We are talking about the correct species right? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagetes_erecta 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) I can take it as a snuff or food plant. But leave me out of the [ripped out their heart atop a scared sacrificial temple?] Edited October 7, 2011 by devance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) I want a fried Axolotl if a guest. Cooking up to you. How to Successfully Keep Your New Axolotl Aqualand’s inside info on Ambystoma mexicanum http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Amphibian,%20Axolotl.htm Edited October 7, 2011 by devance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woof woof woof Posted January 27, 2012 mie have started flowering right now :-) hmmm acetone extract..... hehehe...... maybe a 2x xtract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
