mucronata subsp mucronata?

[Rabelais]

Originally thought it was floribunda, then closer inspection of phyllodes revealed doubts. I am hoping mucronata s.mucronata? as this was found in S/E Tas.

Any thoughts?

[hebrew]

it could be, mucronata is one i been looking for lately, but just cant seem to spot it around.

thought i found it today, but i think it was a floribunda

mucronata does seem to have blunt ends to the phyllodes, but i am not the one who can reliably answer your question, however, floribunda, they are jumping out at me almost every corner i turn

[gerbil]

mucronata

http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/mucronata.php

floribunda

http://www.worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/floribunda.php

They're tricky ones, particularly these groups, i'm battling similar dilemma with some at home. think i may have a mucronata, or a thinner floribuna, or a nursery hybrid? wish the tag was kept as it's planted ...

Are there any glands present on the phyllode margin? it's hard to see in the photo, and can be difficult to spot on some species

not present on the floribunda, but present on the mucronata, that seems to be a easy-er characteristic to slate up

It does look quite floribunda like, the fairly pubescent stems seems characteristic, can't find that info for the mucronata at present.

[Rabelais]

Are there any glands present on the phyllode margin? it's hard to see in the photo, and can be difficult to spot on some species

not present on the floribunda, but present on the mucronata, that seems to be a easy-er characteristic to slate up

Nice tip. No glands that I can see...*and the scales tip slightly*

I will keep an eye on it over the coming months.

[folias]

do some tests or send some to someone who can! :-)

[Tas75]

I'll go for A. floribunda. IME A. mucronata have stiffer phyllodes that more or less all point in the same direction. The presence/absence of a leaf gland and the degree of stiffness of the phyllodes are the easiest characters to go with.

Question is, did it come from native bush, or from the side of the road near the Southern Outlet, Kingston end. If the latter, then it's almost guaranteed A. floribunda.

Edit: A. mucronata tend to have more elliptical shaped leaves, and A. floribunda is usually more lanceolate, like your specimen. In any case the length of the phyllodes would almost put it into Acacia mucronata subsp. longifolia territory.

Edited August 8, 2011 by Tas75

[Recalcetrant]

Does appear to be subspecies mucronata.

A.mucronata tends not to have the curved phyllodes.

[Recalcetrant]

Does appear to be ssp mucronata.

A.mucronata tends not to have the curved phyllodes.

A.mucronata ssp longifolia also tends not to be curved also.

At least this is my limited experience.

[Rabelais]

I'll go for A. floribunda. IME A. mucronata have stiffer phyllodes that more or less all point in the same direction. The presence/absence of a leaf gland and the degree of stiffness of the phyllodes are the easiest characters to go with.

Question is, did it come from native bush, or from the side of the road near the Southern Outlet, Kingston end. If the latter, then it's almost guaranteed A. floribunda.

Edit: A. mucronata tend to have more elliptical shaped leaves, and A. floribunda is usually more lanceolate, like your specimen. In any case the length of the phyllodes would almost put it into Acacia mucronata subsp. longifolia territory.

 

Thanks for that, really had me stumped.

Came from New Norfolk area, on a property about 50m off the main road growing naturally in some scrub. This is why I had a little extra hope for mucronata.

Phyllodes are definitely on the thinner end of the scale.

(EDIT) Was not trespassing btw

Edited August 8, 2011 by Dale Cooper

[Recalcetrant]

Found a nursery website that may interest you down your way.

http://www.potn.com.au/plant_list_Acacia.html