Cancer treatment

[dworx]

abandoned

Edited April 4, 2013 by dworx

[tipz]

Ok ! I have had a bit of a shock today !

I have been to see a skin specialist and although still waiting on biopsy results, My skin specialist believes there is a 'very' high chance i have a basal cell carcinoma that has spread widely across the bridge of my nose. ( i have previously suffered from a highly agressive malignant melanoma on my shoulder the size of a golfball that was successfully removed quite some years ago Looks like i might be up for round 2 Too much surfing and fishing and beaching it without the ol' slip slop slap i suppose !

Yet to be confirmed but it is just about official

Im very distrusting of western medicine and am very interested in black salve ! Does anyone know where i can obtain this magical concoction ? It kind of sounds better than having my nose mutilated and my forehead or earlobe stitched on to patch up the ensuing mutilation.

http://billolearyphu...sp?ArticleID=33 This link here is fucking amazing ! How can they ban this and make it illegal ? how can they keep this shit quiet ? fucking corporate pharmaceutical cunts !!!!!!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsbrIeba798&feature=player_embedded

It's kinda got me a little worried ! any help or advice or experiences shared would be greatly appreciated

Here is an interesting post i found in this thread !

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2863&st=25&p=24318&hl=+black%20+salve&fromsearch=1entry24318

It may not be entirely 100 percent factual but for me personally i feel there is a lot of truth behind it :

you may not believe in what eve hillary is saying or what she is pushing but having researched much of what is going on in the world at the moment and believe me as the content provider for a media outlet i have watched literally hundreds of hours of alternate documentaries ,read dozens of books & read countless articles outside the mainstream media in the last few years and i can tell you without a shadow of a doubt there is a very concerted effort to take over every sphere of human activity and centralise it in the hands of a few powerful people,organisations & corporations, herbs & other alternate medicines will be suppressed and codex will be ONE of the weapons. All governemnts around the world are involved in organising international treaties that strip their citizens of soverenty , germ theory is a myth & pharmaceutical corporations know this, they will strive to control nutrition {herbs, vitamins ect:)because it is a direct threat to their operation the TGA will cease to exist once CODEX is implemented because it will have no role to play power will be transfered off shore.the real agenda is to cull as many punters as possible through a variety of silent weapons such as avian bird flu,cancer causing mycoplasmas through vaccination & arial spraying, chemicial spraying as can be observed over the Northern Rivers every couple of days "ever noticed those contrails from extemely high flying aircraft that don't dissipate but just get wider & wider ? they are chemtrails made of aluminium oxide,mycoplasmas, barium & anything else they would like to deliver on an unsuspecting population, the military industrial complex has been culling populations for years using these silent weapons 100,000 people a year die from CORRECTLY administered Pharmaceutical medincines let alone the one's that people fuck up with mixing with other drugs !! do you really think the TGA give a fuck about saving lives they are hit men hired to look after the criminals that run the drug companies a classic example is CANSEMA a salve made from a variety of North American herbs it kills Melanoma cells big time and has saved many people's lives without a doubt What has the TGA done? banned it in Australia with heavy fines & inprisonment for anyone importing it why because it affects business no more CHEMO or expensive surgery no my friends the conspiracy is far larger than Eve Hillary has highlighted in fact she doesn't go far enough ! Cancer is just a word in reality Cancer is just poor nutrition & a sluggish Pancreas ! ALL Cancer's can be defeated with Vitamin C, Oxygen, & an ensyme called trypsin John Beard had the cure for Cancer in 1906 !! his work was ridiculed and he died a broken man in the 1920's go to http://www.navi.net/~rsc for a brief description of his work. this is true of most things including germ theory which the entire western medical proffession is built on it's all BULLSHIT ! it doesn't work that is why Herbs are such a threat! anything that can enhance immune systems is bad for biz especially when you want to kill entire populations with viruses, I met a guy last year who's brother worked for the World Health Organisation (or Unicef can't remember which one) in South Africa just after the overthrow of White rule his job was to head up a medical team to vaccinate black people from disease after a few months he noticed that AIDS was breaking out in the communities he had treated earlier he did the resesrch and found that the AIDS was in the Vaccines ! he reported it to his superiors & they told him to basically FUCK OFF !! he is now completely fucked on the piss out of it because he feels personally responible for delivering AIDS to MILLIONS of people in South Africa. So don't tell me there is no conspiracy these fuckers are playing for keeps !I shit you not just read Len Horowitz's book "Death from the Air " if you really want to shit your pants this stuff is for real

Edited February 14, 2012 by tipz

[LokStok]

Tipz,

My partner has used BS 4 times now on 'spots' on her limbs, each time with success. A few of my friends have also used it for skin cancers and it has worked

for them as well. I know the people who make it & sell it (carefully) over here & if you want i can grab a jar & send it to you (50g jar was $20 around four months ago).

I also have some info somewhere on application rates, times etc which you can have

Also search for & find Australian DVD/doco "1 Answer to Cancer". If you cant, i can lend you.

PM me.

[tipz]

PM'd Lokstok !

I had my fingers crossed an was hoping someone on here could help ! Many many many thanks !

I've said it before and Ill say it again - THIS COMMUNITY IS FUCKING AWESOME

Edited February 14, 2012 by tipz

[Zaka]

Irie,

I have used the ganj oil (rick simpson method) with easy success.

But I recently heard about the Black salve which is supposed to be the best....

I'm infusing some mhrb oil at the moment to make some skin regenerative salve.

Respect,

Z

[OpticalLight]

Goodness, this makes me think twice about wanting to work outdoors! I generally always wear a long sleeved shirt/suncream and a hat when I work, but I think I've been a bit slack with the hat and long sleeved shirt wearing the past week. I'm going to make sure I always wear sun protection from now on!

[Torsten]

Black salve is NOT very selective for cancerous tissue. The higher metabolism probably makes cancer tissue more susceptible, but there are many cases where people ended up with severe tissue damage - and larger scars than if they had surgery. The other things that bothers me about black salve is that it has been shown to not remove the whole tumour in many cases, leaving barely visible particles deep below the skin where they grow and enter the bloodstream.

It has also been suggested that it can be used internally, which is very very stupid. Just look up sanguinarine if you are considering this. Some advocates also suggest to put the stuff on the skin even if the tumour is deep in the body, eg in the case of lung cancer or bowel cancer. That is just ridiculous.

And please don't kid yourself about the success rates of natural cancer cures. They are incredibly small in comparison to conventional treatments. That doesn't mean they are worthless. For many people it is not the success rate that matters, but the certainty that IF it works that th quality of life after the event is also good. Many conventional cancer treatments leave the body so broken that it takes a few years and sometimes a whole life of further suffering. I personally would want to pick whatever treatment has the highest chance of survival, but that is not the same priority that others have and I fully understand that. But please don't think that it is simply a choice of two equally effective therapies - far from it.

[Amazonian]

Or maybe this... [Euphorbia peplus] http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21149 (says 'prevents' ,but i have used it on shallow spots and they have disapeared) everything is worth investigation.. Positive thoughts and good health vibes out there for you tipz..

[tipz]

Thanks amz

From what i understand from my research T bcc tumours can have far reaching and deep nodes and it is any form of disfigurement on my nose i am wishing to avoid. Black salve ( or at least in the examples i have seen ) seems to greatly diminish this.

Also with the various forms of surgerys recurrence is a very common occurence. I really dont want a peice of my earlobe or forehead grafted onto my schnozz either.

For know I shall wait upon biopsy results and obtain some salve to keep my options open to make an informative decision after all tests are concluded.

Until then, this has given me the shock i need to make some drastic changes in my health and lifestyle.

Cae sera sera hey !

Edited February 15, 2012 by tipz

[Siggor]

Black salve is NOT very selective for cancerous tissue. The higher metabolism probably makes cancer tissue more susceptible, but there are many cases where people ended up with severe tissue damage - and larger scars than if they had surgery. The other things that bothers me about black salve is that it has been shown to not remove the whole tumour in many cases, leaving barely visible particles deep below the skin where they grow and enter the bloodstream.

 

i would suggest for anybody that wants to use it, go to a doctor first, as it might be not even be cancer, my g/f had a sunburn on her lip and for years and years it gave her grief, then found out about black salve, she used it monthly leaving behind a very noticable scarred lip, anyways went to hospital for some other reason they ended up cutting the thing out, tested it and it wasn't cancer after all. it does work but not just for cancerous skin. ps hurts like a mutha.

[satyr]

Just came across this http://curenaturalicancro.com/video-simoncini.html

So as I understand it the theory is that cancerous growth is a defence reaction from the tissue upon "candida-invasion", hence treatment with an antifungal (bicarb, iodine).

In video 3 patients are talking about their "selfmedication" (bicarb douches for cervical cancer, iodine application for skin-cancer-all went into complete remission).

[Evil Genius]

Tipz, basal cell carcinoma of the skin is very treatable and cant be compared to malignant melanoma so no reason to be scared. It does not spread like other cancers do and can be removed in most cases. My grandmother has one on her nose for centuries now and get´s it removed everytime it regrows. bye Eg

Edited February 24, 2012 by Evil Genius

[tipz]

I have investigated It well EG, and am nowhere near as scared as i was when when i left the doctors office. I have been contacted by some amazing people who saw this thread and have been given some amazing leads, advice and a product called black salve.

I will be documenting my progress photographically as hopefully it will become a testament to natural treatments and will help expose the corporate western medical system for what it truly is.

I am thinking perhaps this was the universes way of kicking me up the ass and awakening me from my complacency.

All will be well, and i know that in my heart.

Thanks for the kind words.... watch this space !

(rdit - I had a severly aggressive malignant melanoma the size of a golfball on my shoulder when i was twenty ( 13 yrs ago and beat that one.... so this one should be a walk in the park ))

Edited February 24, 2012 by tipz

[chilli]

This black salve stuff sounds like quackery, and dangerous quackery at that. I would trust a doctor over someone selling a product over the internet anyday.

Besides, even if it did work, which seems dubious, how is chemically burning your face any more 'natural' than having surgery?

[Zen Peddler]

some have some good success with those epigenetic modifiers histone something or other medications like valprioc acid. Turns tumour suppressor genes back on.

[woof woof woof]

look into hasj oil!!! i'm serious,... there is even youtube vids on it.

here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=skin+cancer+hemp+oil&oq=skin+cancer+hem&aq=0&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_l=youtube.3.0.0.1086l13204l0l16884l16l16l3l2l2l0l183l1319l1j10l11l0.

[Chrissy Star]

Radium weed (Euphorbia peplus)

[Sallubrious]

How did you go Tipz ?

Did you decide on a course of action.

I had a BSC on my nose last year and I decided to try petty spurge on it.

I think wearing sunglasses contributed to the development of mine as it is the zone where the glasses reflected the light onto my nose for many years when I was cycling up to 1000 km a week with no sun protection other than the glasses.

Anyway I read a lot about it first, there are many first hand accounts of petty spurge on this website.

http://www.topicalin...sp?TOPIC_ID=273

I have it growing wild around my house so I thought BSC is not a deadly form of cancer so why not give it a go.

The first time I put it on it didn't do much for a few minutes but then it started to tingle and then it started to burn and after a while it felt very intense and it really burned the crap out of me.

It was red raw after the first treatment so I rubbed the inflamed skin off and re applied it. This time it burnt almost straight away and kept burning for hours. After that it was painful to touch so I just dabbed it with a tissue and then re applied it.

All up I treated for three days and by that time it had formed a filthy looking almost yellow puss coloured scab. I let the scab heal and fall off and I could still see flaky abnormal tissue in the middle of the lesion so I went for another 3 days of the same treatment.

Now it's healed it looks much better but there still is a small spot remaining, so it didn't get it all.

It's hard to tell there was ever anything there now, it healed very well.

I'm planning on doing it again soon.

I applied mine by snapping a small branch off to get the sap, then I coated a small leaf in sap and stuck it onto my skin with one of those round band aids.

[Psylo]

I'm also interested in what's happening, Tipsy, as it appears that I have many cancers over me that will need treatment.

Fill us in !

[tipz]

Update time

I have finished treating the affected area on the bridge of my nose at least two weeks ago now.

I have it growing wild around my house so I thought BSC is not a deadly form of cancer so why not give it a go.

The first time I put it on it didn't do much for a few minutes but then it started to tingle and then it started to burn and after a while it felt very intense and it really burned the crap out of me.

It was red raw after the first treatment so I rubbed the inflamed skin off and re applied it. This time it burnt almost straight away and kept burning for hours. After that it was painful to touch so I just dabbed it with a tissue and then re applied it.

All up I treated for three days and by that time it had formed a filthy looking almost yellow puss coloured scab. I let the scab heal and fall off and I could still see flaky abnormal tissue in the middle of the lesion so I went for another 3 days of the same treatment.

Now it's healed it looks much better but there still is a small spot remaining, so it didn't get it all.

It's hard to tell there was ever anything there now, it healed very well.

I'm planning on doing it again soon.

I may as well take the above quote from sallyD and plagiarise It. The BSC was smaller than i had imagined it to be. Like the above mentioned experiences - i felt sharp stinging, followed by a deeper throbbing pain. The affected area ( perhaps 3-4mm square) then scabbed and fell out. Kind of like a grotesquely rotted loph with a big taproot. The area is now rather red and the small cavity left is somehow ' filling itself in'. I have photos of the episode but do not wish to post my face on these forums. ( they will be sent on to the provider of the salve though ). I once egotistically posted my mug on here, but have since deleted ths photo and believe it is best to remain represented by text

I recieved the salve from an extremely empathetic and helpfull member on these forums (who contacted me with no prompting or veiled interest but for my wellbeing ) who not ony personally purchased the product for me, but sent it with an extremely informative and time consuming letter that has not only helped 'ME' immensely, but also a close friend who has been diagnosed with terminal cancer also ( her prognosis is still pending ) For her, the salve was not a viable option, but the heartfelt and informative letter and the wisdom it contained, has definately changed the course of her battle. . I am ETERNALLY gratefull to you.... and you know who you are.

The letter contained a multitude of links and information on the economics of the cancer industry, many different opinions and examples of alternative treatment and the repression of those treatments. But just as importantly, the human condition itself ( including such things as diet and lifestyle ). And to add to that - a small time later this member even went to the trouble of purchasing and sending me a dvd on all the aforementioned details. ( this dvd has been shown and downloaded to my afflicted friends computer and is here to send on to anyone else that may need or wish to see it )

Still to this day, since treatment - I have not found the chance to reply to him/her as of yet and update them on progress since the commencement of application, let alone reimburse them ( as promised ) I have no real excuses for this.... i am fallible and feel bad for this. I am however a man of my word and not one to forget. I will continue this side of the story in private this weekendvia pm and plan on showing my appreciation ( both physically and monetarily - as i am in a better position to do so now ). But that is not for the forum.

I hope oneday i can perhaps meet this SAB member at a future SAB gathering. This forum not only has some extremely knowledgeable people - but It is also rampant with selfless and genuine people with incredible hearts and compassion. This place and it's residents never cease to amaze me. The effort, care and love that was shown to me by someone whom i have never met is a reminder to me of the goodness in the izness.

Chilli - you sound so much like my doctor did . I know you are ( albeit openminded ) highly skeptical of many a thing not accepted by mainstream. And perhaps in some cases this treatment may not be the answer. But if you ask me - from what i have recently discovered and experienced there is more quackery in modern cancer treatment ( and modern medicine as a whole ) than you see here in this particular remedy. It is the corporate dollar that rules our healthcare system and our food and almost all we are exposed too... and i can assure you that corporate entities are not too concerned with our welfare or the prognosis of patients. ( not in the way some may think anyway )

Anyway... i plan on continuing to use the salve on a few other spots i have that are of concern, along with the aid of mole-mapping and monitoring my skin, along with a drastic change of diet and change of perception ( which never ceases to morph ). I think i have written previous i nearly fell victim to a highly agressive malignant melanoma in my early years. If it wasn't for science and western medicine - i suppose according to them I would not be here now. So i am not writing off all their treatments - But in this one instance an alternative product has seemed to have cured me fully (or my nose at least )

But this BIG 'C' thing, and the science and economics of what we call medicine is perhaps beyond my full comprehension. All i can go on is externally fed data and personal experience.

So there ya go... that's kinda where It's all at.

[Amazonian]

Great news tipz, I am really happy for you

I think this is a valuable thread.

[Sallubrious]

That's good news Tipz, thanks for the update.

Sometimes adversity can behold hidden blessings.

Reading stories like that restores my faith in humanity.

[Psylo]

Good on ya Tipzy, glad it's working out ! Would you be inclined to visit a specialist for a scan shortly to confirm that it's completely out or are you satisfied with your observations ?

[Zaka]

Irie Tipz,

Sounds like ya doing good!! Glad to hear it!

Would love to see the results, but as you say, it's better not to put your mug out there for the world!!!

Tell your friend about the ganj oil which is good for internal issues....

As you elude to, it's all about real nurisment......

Moringa is very good for total health well being!!!

Oh & avoiding their poisonious crap at the store!!

Respect,

Z

[Siggor]

it is now illegal to sell black salve and cancema, but there is a new solution termite cream (not for human use.)