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any one in nz keen for cacti/seed trades?

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hi i might be somewhat outa luck since this seems to be predominantly aussies but if anyone in nz is keen to do some sort of trading, i would be too.

i have quite a few different trichos and some rooted morning glory cuttings, also some random crazy succulents and other odd wee buggers. few types of seeds too.

get in touch if u r interested :)

kea

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Where in NZ are you? I could be interested - I have some seed from the last two years, and will have eons of fresh seed when my fruit ripens early in the new year. Also have various plants to trade (seedling through to mature trichs and echinopsis), but I'm lazy too post so you would have to visit to see.

Myself I'm only looking for rare plants, crests, buttons, living rock types etc as I have extremely limited room right now (too many plants lol).

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Where in NZ are you? I could be interested - I have some seed from the last two years, and will have eons of fresh seed when my fruit ripens early in the new year. Also have various plants to trade (seedling through to mature trichs and echinopsis), but I'm lazy too post so you would have to visit to see.

Myself I'm only looking for rare plants, crests, buttons, living rock types etc as I have extremely limited room right now (too many plants lol).

we are dunedin based so visting would be a bit hard sadly. what sort of seeds? i am keen to do some propgating next year (get some tichos and rare wee dudes on the go for future investments plus other edibles and medicinals) once things are a bit more settled.

we have a few ariocarpus retusus (average about 3 cm diameter) that could go up for trade if you had anything in mind and were keen. maybe even an ariocarpus agavoides too. i also have a very strange crest i think it is a stapelliaformis ceropegia cristate, which has been growing at a remarkable speed so i could suss a cutting of that reasably soon, its like some crazy sea creature.

i will load up some pictures next time im online.

yes the space restrictions are slowly building for us too and its just coming up to two years since we started collecting, it'l be quite a laugh 10 years down the track.

kea and andy

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Would be cool if you could get some pics of the arios, and that cres up :) The seeds will be pachanoi/peruvianus/scopulicola crosses (bees pollinate them - I'm not able to keep them separate). Possibly some echinopsis hybrids this year if the bees are out and about yet.

I can probably post some of the smaller plants. I have a metric shit-tonne of Trich x's (named) seedlings from the states that I sowed not thinking I'd get close to 100% germ rates. Plus a couple of "macrogonus" seedlings which are a bit older.

Have a look through my posts and you'll see pics of most of my plants. Anything in particular you want pics of, just ask :)

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hey sorry for the delayed reply,

i have had troubles uploading pics but finally have some up on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

i had a look at some of your pictures, wow you've got a very nice collection, we would be real keen on some macrogonus seedlings if that wud b at all possible as we havent come across any yet, also your trich hybrid seeldings are real nice (and plentiful) wud be cool if we cud maybe get some of them too.

would you poss want to trade a piece of yr lovely huscuana crest for one of the arios?

they are both on offer so have a geez at the pics and let me know if you are keen.

thanks, kea

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let me rephrase, could me and my partner possibly buy a bunch of seedlings off you?

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Hey bit, I'm in Auckland too. I'd be interested in some seedlings if you'd be willing to sell a few. :)

I don't have any decent cacti myself, as I'm just starting out. I've basically got some pachanoi and perhaps a pachanot.

Edit: I'm also trying to root what I believe to be an NZ native Calystegia species. If I can get it to seed, I'll bioassay it. Or maybe I'll return to site of collection and try to gather seeds there.

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<br />Hey bit, I'm in Auckland too. I'd be interested in some seedlings if you'd be willing to sell a few. <img src='http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />I don't have any decent cacti myself, as I'm just starting out. I've basically got some pachanoi and perhaps a pachanot.<br /><br />Edit: I'm also trying to root what I believe to be an NZ native Calystegia species. If I can get it to seed, I'll bioassay it. Or maybe I'll return to site of collection and try to gather seeds there.<br />

i assume your meaning Calystegia tuguriorium.. what makes you think these are active/safe to consume?

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They're members of Convolvulaceae, which contain ergolines and some weird things called calystegines: http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10441

I'm pretty sure that starting off small (CWE of 3 seeds, then 6 seeds, then 12 seeds, etc) and looking for signs of acute toxicity is quite safe.

Other members of Calystegia are used "medicinally", although it seems they don't actually do a whole lot.

Whether they're active or not is a whole other ballgame. I have no idea how, or why, some plants contain chemicals which have these psychedelic effects on the human body. Are they used by the plant for some metabolism processes or information processing? Are they just randomly found in plants as minor contaminants of enzymatic reactions? Are they used as some form of defense (the old desert animal eats peyote, wanders for 10 hours, can't find the peyote again and when it does, doesn't want to consume again - theory)? Or did plants develop these during cohabitation with humans for the benefit of a symbiotic relationship?

As far as it's known, there are no hallucinogenic plants in the NZ forest - apart from psilocybes and weraroas (mushrooms, which conceivably came from the wind), and possibly Macropiper Excelsum in large doses (probably acutely toxic at that level though). Finding hallucinogenic plants in areas where there has been no long-standing human habitation could help to point towards some kind of answer - suggesting that humans play no part in the development of most hallucinogenic plants (exceptions such as S. Divinorum stand out though).

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very interesting, i wish you luck. good to know your playing it safe. let me know how it goes..

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