devance Posted February 26, 2005 "Jiaogulan (jow-goo-lawn) has such a long list of rejuvenating properties that in China they call it the ‘immortality’ herb. It is in a rare class of herbs called ‘adaptogens’ that help your body without causing any harm or imbalance. Jiaogulan is especially helpful in building your body’s natural resistance to stress. The amazing effect jiaogulan has on cardio-vascular health has earned it the title of “the herbal heart defender”. Wonder where some seeds might be available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted February 27, 2005 What an interesting description. Wikipedia returns nothing. A google returns only a few results for "jiaogulan" for places where you can buy a tea of it. This site is helpful though: http://www.jiaogulan.net/ I'm definitely writing this name down...I wonder what it tastes like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted February 27, 2005 Be nice to grow a more potent and faster growing ginseng like plant. They say it has 4 times more goodies than ginseng. Below is more info and contraindications, like don't take while pregnant. http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/HerbsTake...aogulan,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomer Corymbosa Posted February 27, 2005 MACA is the best from all ginseng strains... i have some seeds from it :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
friendly Posted February 27, 2005 Omchi has G. pentaphyllum foliage on the their website for $11.25 for 1/2 kilo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted February 27, 2005 Mandragora and I have about 20 of these climbers growing at the moment, they taste like cucumber. Sounds like a pretty amazing plant. We'll probably have seeds in a few months on the herbalistics webstore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted February 27, 2005 http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamTxt=&txtsearchParamCat=8&txtsearchParamType=ALL&iLevel=1&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=from Search&btnSearch.x=17&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14://http://www.horizonherbs.com/search_...&btnSearch.y=14 Mind booggling variety of legal medicinal herbs. North American herbal seed company. In Oregon. Has the one I am interested in. I can only wonder how they can do it, takes a serious commitment to the herbal way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
friendly Posted February 28, 2005 Horizon is the best. Richo Cech is an amazing man and he and his family are fully devoted to their life's work. He has also authored some very nice books on herbalism (illustrated by his daughter's drawings), notably among them 'Making Plant Medicines' in which he delineates the processes and materials involved in the manufacture of different natural herbal products such as tinctures, extracts, salves and the like, complete with a section on medicinal herbs and their individual uses, dosages, preparations and contraindications. This book and others can be found on his site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted February 28, 2005 darcy, is there any way I can have an automated notify when those seeds become available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted February 28, 2005 I can give you a manual notification I'm actually not sure how lomg they take to flower and set fruit but i'll do some reading today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted March 1, 2005 Oooh manual notification. Sounds kinky, but I feel special :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 17, 2006 Mine looks like it is starting to bud. I have no idea which sex it is. Darcy, any chance of a pollen swap so some seeds become available? They die after they flower don't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) I tried like hell to get this to grow this year Either the seed I got was old/weak/immature or I'm just way too used to growing tropicals and killed them with warmth I'll try again in febuary... Is there any trick to these seeds? I tried straight planting, presoak and planting, 12 hr presoak and surface sowing in troughs, 24 hr presoak and surface sowing in troughs, 0.1% KNO3 presoak... a few did sprout but the seed coat adhered strongly to the cotyledons and even on the ones where true leaves emerged they soon died anyway. I'm determined to grow this because the evidence shows it to not cause the stimulation/hypertension that ginseng can. Marketing hype on this plant is pretty thick but there does seem to be enough clinical evidence to make it of interest. Edited November 17, 2006 by Auxin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomer Corymbosa Posted November 17, 2006 here is a website with full info on this plant - must read! http://www.canmedbotanics.nl/jiaogolan.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Posted November 17, 2006 Lots of info there,thanks Tomer.I tried to save the page but it wouldnt let me so I e-mailed it to myself and that worked fine.Was there another way I could have saved the page to read when I want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomer Corymbosa Posted November 18, 2006 hey, i put it on "favorites" without any problem... but you cant copy/paste from this page. its protected... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted November 18, 2006 I first came across that site in December and saved all 3 pages to my archives without trouble. Firefox Baby At times I've come across web stuff that isnt supposed to be saveable tho and there is Always a way... alternate browsers, emptying temp files accessing it and snagging it from there, screen capping with alt print screen and saving as images, various hacker apps, printer emulators that 'print' to a new pdf file, etc, etc... always a way. I dont like scientific info being restricted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted November 20, 2006 Nice Have you tried making tea from it yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 20, 2006 Yeah usually if I feel a bit sick I will have a tea of roughly 20cm worth of vine fresh with some lemon myrtle. I have a feeling it tastes nicer dried correctly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-bijanto- Posted November 20, 2006 Apothecary, I have 2 jiaogulan plants grown under direct sunlight but they dont grow as vigorous as yours. How old are your plants and do they receive direct sunlight? The roof seems like a polycarbonate or polyethylene sheet, is that it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) They recieve afternoon sunlight only. I do not think they appreciate full sun (at least not here). Not in a large pot either. I just strung some rope up around the awning and let it climb on its own. I fertilise probably 3 or 4 times over the year. EDIT: This will be their second growing season, I got them off darcy around the middle of last year I think. Edited November 20, 2006 by apothecary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-bijanto- Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) Yes, I mean the transparent awning in your pic, I'm just curious if thats the only opening where the afternoon sunlight can get through to your jiaogulan plants, or is there any other opening that's not shown in the pic? I was thinking, since you live in the Southern part of the globe, your afternoon sun might not be exactly vertical or above the head, but somewhat inclined?. It seems that your plants are indoors? I grow mine on the ground with some bamboo trellis, they are from seeds I ordered from Horizon Herbs. These seeds germinated easily outdoors in bright shade and warm tropical temperatures. I got some cuttings from Darcy last year but they died soon after flowering. Edited November 20, 2006 by -bijanto- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-bijanto- Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) [edit] Double post, sorry. Edited November 20, 2006 by -bijanto- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 20, 2006 Nope they're outdoors, and they get all their light on an incline like you suggest, the awning achieves nothing except keeping the morning sun off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
