Rhodiola yunnanensis & Aptenia cordifolia

[Auxin]

Since my environment proved too hostile for R. rosea I've been looking at other species. R. yunnanensis is reported to handle heat much better (45°C here ) But I cant find hardly anything on effectiveness. Sacred Succulents claims its used similarly to R. rosea, a chinese report makes it sound like its more tuned to helping with respiratory disease, and beyond those two theres virtually nothing on this plant I'd mainly be looking at cognitive enhancing ability, but also anti-fatigue... and of course if it helps the throat/lungs I'd also use it for that.

Anyone tried/know it?

I'm also looking at Aptenia cordifolia, its reported as a minor but potentially usable mesembrine alkaloid source which is cool but doesnt really tickle me, its also reported as an effective topical anti-inflammatory. Anyone ever tried it for the latter? A Sceletium-looking plant I could mash and rub on rashes and bug bites may be handy.. if it works

[Coja]

Since my environment proved too hostile for R. rosea I've been looking at other species. R. yunnanensis is reported to handle heat much better (45°C here ) But I cant find hardly anything on effectiveness. Sacred Succulents claims its used similarly to R. rosea, a chinese report makes it sound like its more tuned to helping with respiratory disease, and beyond those two theres virtually nothing on this plant I'd mainly be looking at cognitive enhancing ability, but also anti-fatigue... and of course if it helps the throat/lungs I'd also use it for that.

Anyone tried/know it?

I'm also looking at Aptenia cordifolia, its reported as a minor but potentially usable mesembrine alkaloid source which is cool but doesnt really tickle me, its also reported as an effective topical anti-inflammatory. Anyone ever tried it for the latter? A Sceletium-looking plant I could mash and rub on rashes and bug bites may be handy.. if it works

 

A. cordifolia is easier to grow and less fickle than Sceletium tort. in my experience. I have a vague recollection of the powdered foliage being somewhat like Sceletium powder, though I never took serious notes and measurements. The Aptenia cord. also produces prettier flowers than Sceletium tort., a very nice and rather forgiving houseplant.

Haven't had experience growing the Rhodiolas, but really appreciate the effects of R. rosea extract.

[Auxin]

In that case I think I will try growing Aptenia cordifolia. If it works against rashes and bug bites maybe a trend could start lol

[Auxin]

Interesting, as well as surprising, update. I made a mental note that since Sceletium tortuosum is in the same family as Aptenia cordifolia as well as being chemically similar that it might share A. cordifolias topical anti-inflammatory activity. Well today I had to reclaim a vehicle from a hoard of paper wasps, one stung me and I immediately went over and got some fresh S. tortuosum and rubbed the juice on and let dry, I did that 3 times. It was just starting to swell up when I did that and the swelling vanished and never returned. My mom got stung 3 times and she immediately rubbed the juice on each sting once and her swelling was very minor.

Its worth a shot if you get stung near a kanna plant.

I'm germinating A. cordifolia now, maybe next year I'll be stung twice and I can compare them

[ENtiTY]

A. cordifolia is everywhere. Its almost a weed. Fast growing and tuffer n old boots to. Called baby sunrose commonly I think. Healthiest specimens I have seen are always in a shaded to part shaded spot.

Read something on the forum about a bio along the lines of scelly, seem to remember activity was similar to scelly but short acting...

That could have been the method of prep though.

[planthelper]

i think a previous discussion ended saying that sceletium was a much, much better source of mesem alks, than aptenia.

i move the sceletium plants a bit around rgarding to the season, in summer they get a semi shaded location or just a few hours of direct light, and in winter they recieve as much sun as possible.

i think i remeber tantra did some work with aptenia.

aptenia does self seed, and requires less horticultural efforts, than scelly though.

[t st tantra]

aptenia produced a similar though slightly milder product to sceletium.

one person who tried it requested all i had for him and his mates.

t s t .

[Yeti101]

I've used aptenia in kanna preps (no more than 25% from memory) - mixed with the usual sceletium. Results we OK, but not as good as plain sceletium. Personally I'd rather use Delosperma sp as a kanna admixture.

I am however going to test the anti-inflammatory properties of both next time the appropriate injury.