satyr Posted December 8, 2009 http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/czech-govt-defines-rules-of-hallucinogenic-plants-growing/411010 vydáno: 07.12.2009, 14:46 | aktualizace: 07.12.2009 14:54 "Prague - The Czech government today approved the list of hallucinogenic plants and mushrooms, including hemp, coca, mescaline cactus and magic mushrooms, and decided that people would be allowed to grow up to five pieces of such plants and keep 40 magic mushrooms at home, a CTK source said. The cabinet was today also expected to discuss artificial drugs and a permitted amount of these drugs in people's possession. However, it postponed the debate for two weeks, the source said. The new Penal Code, which will take effect on January 1, is designed to specify the government's directive. It contains a special provision on the growth of hemp and magic mushrooms. The government today also approved a directive on the use of anabolics and the list of diseases that will be considered congenial, according to the criminal law. The law distinguishes between the possession of marijuana and hashish for people's personal needs, for which they will face up to one year in prison, from the possession of other drugs for which they can receive up to two years in prison. According to the Justice Ministry's proposal that the government did not approve today, the possession of over 15 grammes of dried marijuana or over two grammes of methamphetamine (pervitine), cocaine and heroin will be punishable. The tolerated amount of drugs in people's possession is at present defined by police internal directives. No one thus knows precisely what amount is considered an amount "larger than a small amount of drug," the possession of which is punishable by the law. If the government approves the ministry's proposal without changes in two weeks, people will be able to have four pills of ecstasy in their possession and up to five grammes of hashish." Autor: ČTK www.ctk.cz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dude Posted December 8, 2009 At first this seems like a step forward, but upon second inspection it is quite tarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted December 8, 2009 It has worked well in Holland and was expanded there. First it was 4 pills, but then some court cases showed that it was unreasonable for a person to be punished who procured or carried pills for their partners or closest friends, so the limit was increased to 10. 10 pills is quite unrestrictive for personal consumption and sharing with your close friends, which should never be a criminal offence anyway. Oz has a long way to go.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vual Posted December 8, 2009 Absolutely Fantastic, lets home more places follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted December 8, 2009 Looks like we are moving towards "plant=legal, drugs=illegal", this is wonderful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bℓσωηG Posted December 8, 2009 Czech Republic Decriminalizes Cultivation Of Marijuana Starting Jan. 1 http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2009/12/czech_republic_decriminalizes_cultivation_of_marij.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted December 8, 2009 Alright, I'm off then, might need a copy of this: http://wikitravel.org/en/Czech_phrasebook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted December 8, 2009 and you aint takin clothes sina because im gettn in ya suitcase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruman Posted December 9, 2009 Gonna fuck over alot of cactus collectors. Apparently you can only grow upto 5 of: "controled" cactae : Astrophytum asterias, myriostigma Aztekium riteri Mamilaria grahamii Obregonia denegrii Pelecyphora aselliformis Turbinicarpus ssp. Lophophora ssp and Ariocarpus ssp. Trichocereus ssp Discussion & link to a petition here: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=cs&u=http://grower.cz/forum/showthread.php%3Fthreadid%3D46744&ei=7OoeS5qBBIygkQWhkInyCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwww.petice.net/kaktus%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-au Could'nt get google to translate the petition again. Well I hope the cactus collectors do'nt mind dropping E. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted December 9, 2009 wow, there IS actually a country in the world that has more banned cacti than australia! who'd a thunk it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruman Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Well most of Australia, not SA Torsten, with their all mescaline containing plants BS. Edited December 9, 2009 by shruman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teotzlcoatl Posted December 9, 2009 Why the hell do they want to limit the number of Ariocarpus you can grow? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dude Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) -Because they are retarded, like i said. It is the gradual introduction of a police state under the guise of freedom to grow what you want. Like shruman said, this would fuck up a lot of collections. Is there going to be a cacti growers database? they more ornamental than anything anyway, as are a lot of plants regardless of the goodies in them, and to limit the amount you can have, based on a presupposition that all that you are growing is intended to be a psychoactive substance, not just a fricken plant, is retarded. Because all this is shown under the light of increasing freedom, its not hard to sell your liberty for it... "Oh what, now I'm allowed to grow this? sure I'll walk you through my garden so you can know exactly what substances i have, with no ulterior motive for collecting such data. Sure! Too easy!" "Oh what!?! You're going to fine me something ridiculous because my garden looks this fricken nice! - err.. what you think I'm gonna smoke/ingest all of this?" "Well really I was hoping to grow what i want when i want as long as it doesn't harm others, if it is in MY garden it is under my control, and my responsibility, my domain biatch, who are you to limit my freedoms in the first place?" Lightening these restrictions is to appeal to the hearts of plantheads and appear accepting of alternative medicines and ones own right to grow/extract them... Still within their restrictions, so that the state again has control over your life which you happily give up because of the ruse of increasing freedoms... so don't be happy people! Be Indignant. be very very indignant! Edited December 12, 2009 by The Dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted December 12, 2009 Hmmm, interesting changes, some good, some not so much. What the hell is with restricting the number of Astrophytums, Mamillaria grahamii, Turbinicarpus', Pelecyphora aselliformis and others??! Oz has a long way to go.... Yep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culebra22 Posted December 12, 2009 What the hell is with restricting the number of Astrophytums, Mamillaria grahamii, Turbinicarpus', Pelecyphora aselliformis and others??! Yeah I thought this was rather odd too. I'm guessing this legislation is really going to decimate some cactus collections over there, especially those specialising in said genera. Thinking about it perhaps now that youths there looking for cheap thrills will be attracted to these (-rather obscure cacti from a contemporary ethnobotanical viewpoint-) and see them as being drugs rather than as plants, and so they will more than likely ingest them; perform bioassays on them- and so inadvertently raise the profile of these plants. Then Maybe Teotz would be interested in their findings pertaining to the psychoactivity of these "Lost Peyotes"! Speak Czech Teotz? hehe. For example, I imagine the number of Astrophytums being ingested there is going to increase substantially in the near future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shruman Posted December 12, 2009 Yeah I think his Dudeness may be on to something, Allowed 5 cannabis plants but only to possess 15 grams, unworkable, seems like an easy way to make criminals. Gubaments by & large seek control & seldom relinquish it. Hopefully they can work out some of the kinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
complex Posted January 5, 2010 You can easily buy mushrooms and weed FROM some of the clubs in Prague. I was there about a month ago and there is an incredible atmosphere in some of these clubs/pubs; people just sitting down and lighting up, can easily walk up to people and try talk with them and everyone just leaves their bags and coats at the side of the room. My friend found out about the buying of weed accidentally. She went to the bar and asked for a bag of chips, the guy behind the bar misheard and turned around with a small bag of weed :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 6, 2010 I think it's a good evolution, nothing tarded here... "Apparently you can only grow upto 5 of: "controled" cactae " I am sure this is a legal measure so as to make sure noone makes nurseries full of Trichocereus or other mescaline producing cacti, now that personal usage laws are less strict... to ensure the personal usage is what they're trying to protect if I am not mistaking, which is brilliant. I am sure no collector will be busted for having a wonderful collection guys! Read between the lines of the measure. I read somewhere something about minimal amounts alowed and it's the quantities a user and not a seller would possess. like a gram of coke and heroin, 10 grams or so of grass, 3-4 doses of lsd, something along these numbers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted January 6, 2010 That they would "control" a number of Cactaceae that are not known to contain any restricted chemicals or have any known psychoactive effects it completely retarded and every grower of these plants should be concerned. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culebra22 Posted January 6, 2010 That they would "control" a number of Cactaceae that are not known to contain any restricted chemicals or have any known psychoactive effects it completely retarded and every grower of these plants should be concerned. It almost seems as if their govt did an internet search for psychoactive cacti and it came up with Teotz' Lost Peyotes list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 6, 2010 It almost seems as if their govt did an internet search for psychoactive cacti and it came up with Teotz' Lost Peyotes list... LOLOLOLOL , a good one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites